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Postby Wapiko on Mon Nov 19, 2001 1:01 am

I just looked at the strip again. ^_^<P>I like Joe. I really like Joe. The more I see of him, the more I think there is to like about him. I like Ceilidh too, and I really think that she needs more hugs in her life. They both need more hugs in their lives. I wish they were both my sibs, so I could give them hugs. (I'm a spontaneous hugger)<P>But I really like Joe.
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Postby bunnyThor on Mon Nov 19, 2001 2:02 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wapiko:
<B> They both need more hugs in their lives. I wish they were both my sibs, so I could give them hugs. (I'm a spontaneous hugger)</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>That probably wouldn't be a good idea with Joe. You see, he wants his first hug to be a momentous occasion that he'll remember for the the rest of his life, so he's waiting for the right person who will walk down from the sky on a beam of light and shower him with faerie dust and rose petals before joining him in a hug that will transfix his very soul. Anything less will not do!<P><P>------------------
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Postby Michael Martin on Mon Nov 19, 2001 2:16 am

But if he's telling the truth, he's probably leeged in more than the relationship sense...<P>--Michael<P>------------------
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Postby Klaus Petersen on Mon Nov 19, 2001 2:24 am

That was <I>fast!</I> It will take a lot more than a little stress to shake this relationship. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/smile.gif"><P>And then, twisty as ever, Sir Josh gives us something new to worry about: Joe's mom is practically forcing him into university. Motivation and determination are at least as important as intelligence in academics. On top of that, Joe doesn't have the best study habits (a problem that I am intimately familiar with). This is not a good way to start! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/frown.gif"><P>Joe has a very good reason to stay with Ceilidh right there!
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Postby Death of Rats on Mon Nov 19, 2001 2:34 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bunnyThor:
<B> [...] Anything less will not do!<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Caustic, my dear Bunny, caustic. Now, was this <i>evil</I> sarcasm or was it <I>"tounge in cheek"</I> sarcasm?<P>DoR
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Postby Anh Minh on Mon Nov 19, 2001 2:35 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wapiko:
<B>I just looked at the strip again. ^_^<P>I like Joe. I really like Joe. The more I see of him, the more I think there is to like about him. I like Ceilidh too, and I really think that she needs more hugs in her life. They both need more hugs in their lives. I wish they were both my sibs, so I could give them hugs. (I'm a spontaneous hugger)<P>But I really like Joe.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Besides, if they were your sib, they'd be each other's, which would put a hamper on their relationship. Hey! Maybe that's why Joe didn't want to kiss Ceilidh!<P>Albatross-Minh
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Postby gwalla on Mon Nov 19, 2001 3:43 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Klaus Petersen:
<B>As a rule, theoretical courses were rated at six points, which were credited to you upon achieving a passing grade in the relevant final exam.<P>Did I hear someone fall asleep? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/biggrin.gif"><P>Some courses would gain a reputation, rightfully or not, for being easier than others. Such courses were referred to by a certain TLA by the students: Six Easy Points.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I've always referred to ultra-easy classes as "Mickey Mouse" courses. USC had a lot of them (primarily to keep the football team's grades up).<P>------------------
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Postby Anh Minh on Mon Nov 19, 2001 4:13 am

I'm in a pretty good school, yet myself and many of my classmates have worse study habits than Joe's.
As for motivation and determination... I don't know. I just don't know. Maybe, once he's in the water, he can convince himself that's what he wants.<P>Albatross-Minh<p>[This message has been edited by Anh Minh (edited 11-19-2001).]
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Postby Klaus Petersen on Mon Nov 19, 2001 5:28 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Anh Minh:
<B>I'm in a pretty good school, yet myself and many of my classmates have worse study habits than Joe's.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hmmm, if CRFH is anything to go by, bad study habits are the norm in the western hemisphere. Okay, no special trouble for Joe there. I come to think of my college years, and the <I>Six Easy Points</I> phenomenon - doesn't require any explanation, does it? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif"> It was never a guiding principle in anyones selection of courses, mind you.<P>What is it really like on the other side of the pond? Do you have professors that start the course by stating that they will do their level best to flunk anyone who does not work for their grades?<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>As for motivation and determination... I don't know. I just don't know. Maybe, once he's in the water, he can convince himself that's what he wants.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I know I had to - electrical power engineering was not my first choice of program, but it was not entirely for me to decide. In the end, my co-op semester and graduation project were actually quite interesting. I would have been happy with that line of work, but the job opportunities never materialized - instead I ended up writing software. It's a funny old world.
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Postby Anh Minh on Mon Nov 19, 2001 6:00 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Klaus Petersen:
<B>I come to think of my college
years, and the Six Easy Points phenomenon - doesn't require any explanation, does
it? It was never a guiding principle in anyones selection of courses, mind you.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I have no idea what you're talking about.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
What is it really like on the other side of the pond? Do you have professors that
start the course by stating that they will do their level best to flunk anyone who
does not work for their grades?
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Not noticeably. The closest I've come to is a math teacher who, everyother year, said 'if you don't do your homework, you won't be allowed to come back for another year here'. Aside from that, all the teachers tried to convince us of the importance of their subject. Yeah. Right.<P>Albatross-Minh<P><p>[This message has been edited by Anh Minh (edited 11-19-2001).]
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Postby devlor on Mon Nov 19, 2001 6:03 am

I don't know, I'm still a little worried. The strip for 11/15 seemed too loaded to me to just drop like that. What was it that Joe was trying not to say? How much will Ceilidh still try to hold onto Joe? I feel that the issue was not so much resolved as postponed, and that it will still come back to haunt the couple.<P>------------------
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Postby Wapiko on Mon Nov 19, 2001 6:47 am

I have to admit, this was a really nice thing to see. I'm so glad that they could talk this out rather than blow up at each other and argue as was hinted at earlier.<P>It does show more on just how much they (in fact, the whole cast too) have matured. The fact that they were able to calm down and talk just now also emphasizes the change that we saw earlier in the year, when they first started the new school year. Ceilidh, after talking to Phoebe, <I>talked</I> to Joe about their relationship rather than argued. It really makes me wonder just what happened in her room after we left them. (No, not <I>that</I> way, <I>minna, ecchi!</I> I mean what they talked about that is allowing them this much security with each other)<P>And why doesn't anyone eat potato chips there?<P>Wapiko-chan
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Postby Klaus Petersen on Mon Nov 19, 2001 7:26 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Anh Minh:
<B>I have no idea what you're talking about.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>As in 'I have no idea what you're talking about!?!' or 'I have no idea what you're talking about. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif">'?<P>Okay, I'll explain: as you can infer from what I've posted, the study habits of me and my classmates were every bit as appalling as anywhere else. Each course was rated at a number of academic points. To graduate, you had to have a minimum overall number of academic points, a minimum overall number of lab and workshop points, complete the programs requisite courses, a co-op semester to your employers satisfaction, and a graduation project. As a rule, theoretical courses were rated at six points, which were credited to you upon achieving a passing grade in the relevant final exam.<P>Did I hear someone fall asleep? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/biggrin.gif"><P>Some courses would gain a reputation, rightfully or not, for being easier than others. Such courses were referred to by a certain TLA by the students: Six Easy Points. Lowbrow humor. I can recall at least one teacher that absolutely didn't care, and another that was ticked off to no end by it. The latter was, in fact, a math teacher, and he started the semester by assuring us of his determination to make us sweat <I>throughout</I> the semester for our grades and our points, especially in the lab course. In return, he pointed out, there was a chance that we would actually learn something, and that it would actually stick. <P>He was right. He turned out to be an excellent teacher, and that course was one of my most rewarding academic experiences. I got an average grade, but what I learned has proved immensely useful in my working life. The english title for the course would be something like 'Applied Mathematics in Information Technology.'<P>I never actually heard of anyone <I>seriously</I> selecting 'easy' courses to fill their quota with the least amount of study, though we always kept an eye on the semesters workload.<P>[Edited for various nauseating ramblings . . . ]<p>[This message has been edited by Klaus Petersen (edited 11-19-2001).]
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Postby AetherKnight on Mon Nov 19, 2001 8:47 am

I've seen people stack their course selection with "fluff" classes.
My best friend did it his first semester at Universtity. Too bad he still ended up on academic probation due to a couple problematic drug habits he developed in all his spare time. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/frown.gif"><P>------------------
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Postby Fuzzymoose on Mon Nov 19, 2001 9:29 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Klaus Petersen:
<B>
Some courses would gain a reputation, rightfully or not, for being easier than others. <P>I never actually heard of anyone <I>seriously</I> selecting 'easy' courses to fill their quota with the least amount of study, though we always kept an eye on the semesters workload.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Where I went to school, students didn't really worry about taking 'easy' courses. They were more interested in the times that the classes were held. With a well-planned schedule, you didn't have any classes before 11:00 AM, and no classes at all on Friday. Then, the drinking binges would start Thursday night and you would have all Monday morning to nurse your hangover. Pretty sad, really. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/frown.gif"><P>I never really noticed any classes with a reputation for being easy credits. And the one time I was warned that classes would be extra-tough wasn't at university in the States, but when I went up to college in Ontario.
And they were extra-difficult, too.
Hardest thing I ever did in my life.<P>But anyway, back to the strip: It does seem kind of sudden for them to stop arguing & talk it out, but I'm not complaining. It gives me that warm, glowy feeling that got me hooked on Avalon in the first place. Any worries I had about how Joe & Ceilidh and their relationship would turn out have been calmed.<P>I'd still *like* to see them stay together and at the same school. But with the way that they're able to talk & work together now, it feels like even if they can't be together after high school, their story will still turn out OK and be satisfying. Ummm... am I making any sense here?<P>-Fuzzymoose
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Postby Jaxartes on Mon Nov 19, 2001 10:03 am

Today's comic is <I>so</I> sweet. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/smile.gif"><P>Joe and Ceilidh seem to be doing really well together in this one. Ceilidh backed off... and Joe asked for her help. These seem like good signs. Then again, what do I know about relationships? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/frown.gif">
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Postby Josh Phillips on Mon Nov 19, 2001 12:32 pm

<A HREF="http://www.avalonhigh.com/d/20011116.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.avalonhigh.com/d/20011116.html</A> <P>JOSH.
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Postby Anh Minh on Mon Nov 19, 2001 12:37 pm

I'm relieved. I thought it'd be a lot more of a bloody mess. They're cute! ^_^<P>Albatross-Minh
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Postby Darth Paradox on Mon Nov 19, 2001 12:47 pm

*<i>Darth Paradox cheers as Joe yet again narrowly avoids completely leeging the relationship</i>*
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Postby Klaus Petersen on Tue Nov 20, 2001 2:36 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fuzzymoose:
<B>But anyway, back to the strip: It does seem kind of sudden for them to stop arguing & talk it out, but I'm not complaining. It gives me that warm, glowy feeling that got me hooked on Avalon in the first place. Any worries I had about how Joe & Ceilidh and their relationship would turn out have been calmed.<P>I'd still *like* to see them stay together and at the same school. But with the way that they're able to talk & work together now, it feels like even if they can't be together after high school, their story will still turn out OK and be satisfying. Ummm... am I making any sense here?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You make <I>at least</I> as much sense as I do . . . <P>I wonder if I should start a thread on bad habits, study-related and otherwise . . .
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Postby Klaus Petersen on Tue Nov 20, 2001 2:49 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bunnyThor:
<B> That probably wouldn't be a good idea with Joe. You see, he wants his first hug to be a momentous occasion that he'll remember for the the rest of his life, so he's waiting for the right person who will walk down from the sky on a beam of light and shower him with faerie dust and rose petals before joining him in a hug that will transfix his very soul. Anything less will not do!</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I'll wager that it <A HREF="http://www.avalonhigh.com/d/20010727.html" TARGET=_blank>already</A> <A HREF="http://www.avalonhigh.com/d/20010802.html" TARGET=_blank>happened.</A>
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Postby Jen Aside on Tue Nov 20, 2001 4:15 am

You know, Walt Disney went through a lot of hard work to make Mickey Mouse the way we know him today... it's surprising that Mickey Mouse would then be synonymous with being easy...
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Postby Wapiko on Tue Nov 20, 2001 7:52 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Anh Minh:
<B> Besides, if they were your sib, they'd be each other's, which would put a hamper on their relationship. Hey! Maybe that's why Joe didn't want to kiss Ceilidh!<P>Albatross-Minh</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Not necessarily. I guess you've never seen the anime, Marmalade Boy. There are ways to be sibs and still not be blood related. I still want to give them both much hugs (especially since there is so little potato chip eating around here)<P>Wapiko-chan
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