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Postby Anh Minh on Wed Oct 31, 2001 11:53 am

I need help on that one.
There is that girl I 'met' this year. At school. Don't really know more than her name and face. Yet this night, I dreamt I wooed and kissed her. Or maybe I dreamt I dreamt it. Because after that, I dreamt I found myself in a talk-show, telling people about my dream. I even heard a few reactions. Like:<P>"He's a romantic."
"That's cute."
"No, I meant he was dumb."<P>Or:
"I think he should rise to the challenge and try to date both at the same time."
"That has nothing to do with his dream..."
"Oh. My bad."<P>So I wanted to ask: what does all this mean? I think I need some good twisty interpretation to put it all behind me.<P>(And yes, even though my first language is French, I sometimes dream in English.)<P>Albatross-Minh
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Postby Shatteredtower on Thu Nov 01, 2001 1:06 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Anh Minh:
<B>I don't know. Reknown has never been much of an issue for me. I had it because I was smart, then because I was weird... Was more annoying than anything else, but I got used to it.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> And yet you ask us for an opinion of your dreams? I sense a contradiction here - but that's hardly unusual when people say they've gotten used to a thing.<P><B> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> And I don't think any 'decision' I might take about that girl would change anything in that regard. Not that wooing her <I>is</I> an option. I'm not that kind of guy.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You make that sound like it's a good thing. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/tongue.gif"><P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>PS: Call me Minh, not Anh.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> Until requested, I prefer not to, but you did ask. There's a reason I placed "Mr." in front of it. <P> I spent years dealing with people I was not permitted to address by their first names, and Mr. or Ms. were the only concession I was given to show any respect to them at all.
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Postby RJ Shep on Thu Nov 01, 2001 1:06 am

Well, I'm fairly certain I was dreaming. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif"><P>Those aren't even the really <I>interesting</I> ones, at least to me. Just the most... shocking to most people.<P>I've been a vivid, lucent dreamer since about six. I only remember aboout 25% of them, though.<P>The most fun I had was when I dreamed a 5 movie series about zombie vampires featuring Jennifer Love Hewitt as the lead vampire. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/biggrin.gif">
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Postby Anh Minh on Thu Nov 01, 2001 1:35 am

I'm not sure we mean the same thing when we say 'reknown'. To me, it's when people you don't know at all call you by name and comment on things you've said and done.<P>And Anh Minh <I>is</I> my first name. The two words. It's just that the second is more significant than the first.<P>Albatross-Minh
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Postby Shatteredtower on Thu Nov 01, 2001 1:58 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Anh Minh:
<B>I'm not sure we mean the same thing when we say 'reknown'.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> So what you're saying is, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it does," is that it? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/tongue.gif">

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B> To me, it's when people you don't know at all call you by name and comment on things you've said and done.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> So what we're haggling over here is a matter of scale. You are choosing to view this as an interpretation of those you won't know react (even though you wouldn't care in your waking world, and you wouldn't knowingly make a decision based on such a factor). I'm looking at you viewing a world outside of yourself, whether stranger of dear friend.

In part, that's because a dear friend is merely a stranger I don't mind meeting on a regular basis - but who can be viewed as an intruder if too much familiarity is assumed.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>And Anh Minh <I>is</I> my first name. The two words. It's just that the second is more significant than the first.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> Duly noted - with my apologies. Do you mind if I ask what it means? Because if you do, then I won't. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif"><P> For the record, my own full name can be translated as "Famous Half-elfin Keeper of Eagles." After all, if I'm going to ask for meanings, I should volunteer the same in kind, no?<p>[This message has been edited by Shatteredtower (edited 11-01-2001).]
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Postby Friggin' Cornflakes on Thu Nov 01, 2001 2:00 am

Heheh, whenever people go in depth into dream analysis, I'm reminded of the Jiggy Muppet strip of BBOCS. Read it at
<A HREF="http://hotzp.com/badboys/archives/050200.html" TARGET=_blank>http://hotzp.com/badboys/archives/050200.html</A> <P>i'm too lazy to write HTML code so just copy and paste it in your browser you bastards!<P>
And something I picked up from Psych class: fairly recent studies have shown that neurons which fire when a rat explores an unfamiliar maze will fire again while the rat is sleeping. I'm oversimplifying it, but this suggests that dreams, at least for rats, are the brain's way to integrate information into memory. Or perhaps the rat is reliving its experience in order to improve upon its performance, to consider what could be done differently in order to improve its survivablity. These explainations seem to account for why we can end up in some pretty weird situations, or bring up things that are from long in our past.
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Postby Anh Minh on Thu Nov 01, 2001 2:14 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Friggin' Cornflakes:
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And something I picked up from Psych class: fairly recent studies have shown that neurons which fire when a rat explores an unfamiliar maze will fire again while the rat is sleeping. I'm oversimplifying it, but this suggests that dreams, at least for rats, are the brain's way to integrate information into memory. Or perhaps the rat is reliving its experience in order to improve upon its performance, to consider what could be done differently in order to improve its survivablity. These explainations seem to account for why we can end up in some pretty weird situations, or bring up things that are from long in our past.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>So what you're saying is, RJ Shep was practicing in case he became the Ante-christ? So that he'll know what to do?<P>Albatross-Minh<P>
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Postby RJ Shep on Thu Nov 01, 2001 2:26 am

BWAHH HAHHH HAAA!!! FEAR ME!!! :><P>No, seriously, that particular dream (I'm pretty sure) has to do with my feelings due to my wife's recent rediscovery of her christian faith. Many MANY years ago, I was interning to be a Methodist minister, when I discovered I had fundamental doubts about the whole religion. Got really bitter and hostile to Christianity during some parts of the experience. So, fast forward a decade+; I had to repress alot while Mrs. S was blithely doing devotional studies.<P>Just a little explanation, so you all stop backing away from me slowly <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif">
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Postby Anh Minh on Thu Nov 01, 2001 3:23 am

No apology needed.
It means Hero-With-A-Clear-Mind, Very-Intelligent-Hero. Or something like that. In Chinese characters, Minh is written with Light-of-the-Sun, Light-of-the-Moon. Horus-like, I guess.<P>Albatross-Minh<p>[This message has been edited by Anh Minh (edited 11-01-2001).]
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Postby Spaceman42 on Thu Nov 01, 2001 6:49 am

I *could* do an analysis, like I learned to do in Psych 20, but I'd need a little background info. Gender, relationships (basic info only, really), age, significant events in present waking life. <P>If you're still willing after reading that, sure, I'll analyze and attempt to post @ lunch.
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Postby Anh Minh on Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:10 am

I didn't mean I wanted a <I>serious</I> analysis! I'm not that concerned over that dream. Besides, aren't they supposed to be significant only when they're recurrent?
On the other hand... could be fun.
Gender: M
Age:20
Rel.: none
Significant events: My dog died a month ago. I got back home last week for hollidays.<P>Albatross-Minh<p>[This message has been edited by Anh Minh (edited 11-01-2001).]
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Postby Carn_Carby on Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:19 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Anh Minh:
<B>Does that mean I'm insane? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/eek.gif"> "AAAAAAAH! *me runs around in fright* AAAAAH! Help! I'm crazy! *stops running* Oh. But that's old news."<P>Albatross-Minh</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>^_^ Minh is not crazy. Minh's <I>speshul</I>.<P>KN<P>
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Postby RJ Shep on Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:31 am

Heh!<P><I>My</I> name means "famous tender of small wooly herd animals" or some such. Really.<P>As for your dream, have you recently seen the Truman Show? Seriously. I find that elements of pop culture and other such influences I am exposed to, find themselves being used in my dream-images. I am a frequent and vivid dreamer. Maybe you are experiencing this as well?
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Postby Fool on Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:54 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Anh Minh:
<B>I didn't mean I wanted a <I>serious</I> analysis! I'm not that concerned over that dream. Besides, aren't they supposed to be significant only when they're recurrent?
On the other hand... could be fun.
Gender: M
Age:20
Rel.: none
Significant events: My dog died a month ago. I got back home last week for hollidays.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>That's the spirit!
Now tell us about yer <B>MOM</B>!
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Postby RJ Shep on Thu Nov 01, 2001 8:18 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fool:
<B> That's the spirit!
Now tell us about yer MOM!</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>[Leon Mode]"My... Mother? Let me tell you about my mother!" *BAMM*[/Leon Mode] <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/biggrin.gif"><p>[This message has been edited by RJ Shep (edited 11-01-2001).]
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Postby Friggin' Cornflakes on Thu Nov 01, 2001 9:00 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Anh Minh:
<B> So what you're saying is, RJ Shep was practicing in case he became the Ante-christ? So that he'll know what to do?<P>Albatross-Minh<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I would have said delusions of grandeur, but now that he's explained himself, I guess not.<P>Some cultures, like a certain Aboriginie (sp?) nation in Australia, take dreams so seriously that you can be punished as a criminal for the acts you commit in your dreams. You say, couldn't they just not tell others about their dreams, then? Well, not quite, in their culture it is a daily custom to discuss them with others. They also have a remarkable ability to remember all they dreamed about.
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Postby RJ Shep on Thu Nov 01, 2001 9:11 am

Feh, Who said I don't have delusions of granduer? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif"><P>Most of my really interesting dreams have to do with my daughter... in them she has... Powers. Serious shit. Save-the-world class stuff. One of them made me CRY with joy, and I can still call up that image, and it still makes me go all mushy inside. And no, I don't care to try to describe it.<P>I'm right now reading Ender's Game (thanks, Carny!) and, doting parent that I am, see such potential in my kids. It's scary sometimes. Knowing that your children will be smarter and more successful than you, unless you screw them up...
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Postby Anh Minh on Thu Nov 01, 2001 9:21 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RJ Shep:
<B>Heh!<P><I>My</I> name means "famous tender of small wooly herd animals" or some such. Really.<P>As for your dream, have you recently seen the Truman Show? Seriously. I find that elements of pop culture and other such influences I am exposed to, find themselves being used in my dream-images. I am a frequent and vivid dreamer. Maybe you are experiencing this as well?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I watched 'Truman Show' once when it was on theater. In general, I loathe Springer-like talk shows. France is spared the worst for now, but I fear for the future...
I am a vivid dreamer... but only a half dozen times a year. Does that qualify as 'frequent'?
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Postby Carn_Carby on Thu Nov 01, 2001 9:25 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Friggin' Cornflakes:
<B> Some cultures, like a certain Aboriginie (sp?) nation in Australia, take dreams so seriously that you can be punished as a criminal for the acts you commit in your dreams. You say, couldn't they just not tell others about their dreams, then?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>D'oh. 1984 flashback. Crimethought. *shudder* Remember Winston's co-worker? His children ratted on him for "something he said in his sleep".<P>KN<P>
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Postby Spaceman42 on Thu Nov 01, 2001 9:50 am

Hoo boy.
Actually, dreams don't have to be *recurrent* to be significant; they don't even have to be interesting. <P>This dream seems quite... well, strange or complex. Pick one. I might just give it to my Psych teacher and see what he makes of it... I'll be trying my hand at analysis over a Honey Ham sandwich.
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Postby Spaceman42 on Thu Nov 01, 2001 10:00 am

Okay, brought it to my Psych teacher, and he said: [more or less]<P>Freud once said, "All dreams are wishes." If there are no relationships in this guy's life, this might be a wish for one. Also, the human mind always wants to fill in voids caused by loss; the loss of the dog might also have prompted this dream.
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Postby Anh Minh on Thu Nov 01, 2001 10:03 am

Does that mean I'm insane? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/eek.gif"> "AAAAAAAH! *me runs around in fright* AAAAAH! Help! I'm crazy! *stops running* Oh. But that's old news."<P>Albatross-Minh
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Postby Fool on Thu Nov 01, 2001 10:18 am

Try <a href="http://www.konstruktiv.net/kitty_02.html">this</a> to give you inspiration for dreams!
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Postby Shatteredtower on Thu Nov 01, 2001 10:37 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RJ Shep:
<B>Heh!<P><I>My</I> name means "famous tender of small wooly herd animals" or some such. Really.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> Well, I see the 'R' in there, and the 'Shepherd' part - but where does the J fit in? It's my middle name that makes me a keeper of eagles.<P> Sorry, Minh - not trying to detract from your dream sequence. I'm curious why you brought it up, though.<P> And no, I don't think your crazy. Weird, maybe, but that's a badge of honour.
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Postby Anh Minh on Thu Nov 01, 2001 10:43 am

How R and famous compute?
As for why I brought it up... I was bored, and I know no lateral puzzle, that's all. <P>Albatross-Minh
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