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Postby Davie daWeird on Mon May 07, 2001 8:52 am

I'm not so good at wild speculation myself, but I'm curious as to what the others think "the truth" might actually be. Amiacable or unamiacable split? What might he have done to her? Did she get dumped?<P>Agh, it's gnawing at my brain! Get it off, get it off! Make it stop!
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Postby Nick Pavlovski on Mon May 07, 2001 8:55 am

RATIONAL EXPLANATION - She called it off on him, probably becuase of something to do with her parents (esp. her mum).
WILD SPECULATION - The voices in her head (the ones that gave her paranoid delusions mixed in with advertisements for cheese) alerted her to Patrick's intense Body Odour...
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Postby Davie daWeird on Mon May 07, 2001 9:04 am

I gotta say, I really like the wild speculation one better.
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Postby Wildmartin on Mon May 07, 2001 9:08 am

I know it isn't very twisty, but I'll go with the rational explanation.<p>[This message has been edited by Wildmartin (edited 05-07-2001).]
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Postby Sterling on Tue May 08, 2001 2:24 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kaoru:
<B> Um when did this happen? I thought Mr. Page is Joe's dad. He ran off to Seattle. Do you mean Deirdre's dad, Mr. Bradley?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Gyahhhh.... Yes. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/frown.gif"> I did mean Mr. Bradley, and was looking right at the comic in the archive when I wrote that, too.<P>Hatboy: Very possibly....<P>PJH: He was likely able to approach Dierdre because he didn't have any strong emotional attachment to her. He'd been friends with Feebs for a while, so he probably knew her, and he couldn't go to any of his other friends with his problems. (Alan, Helene, and Phoebe being the complete list at this point)<P>I think that Phoebe and Deirdre are just as pivotal to the plot as Joe is, and possibly more - their actions were what kicked off the mysterious events three years ago.
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Postby Sterling on Tue May 08, 2001 4:24 am

Reading through the post-Deirdre comics again, there's a few things I hadn't spotted earlier.<P><LI> Joe's reaction is definitely one of fright or total and complete shock. For some reason, seeing DD back so soon scared him badly. (<A HREF="http://www.avalonhigh.com/d/20001103.html" TARGET=_blank>2:40</A>)<P><LI> Deirdre DID suggest a path to Phoebe and Joe. One or both did not follow her suggestion, leading to an eventual messy breakup with Todd. Which <I>could</I> be why Feebs is so mad at her.<P><LI> How did I miss this before? In <A HREF="http://www.avalonhigh.com/d/20010214.html" TARGET=_blank>2:108</A>, Mrs. Bradley says that they've been paying for <I>three months</I> of school. Deirdre's been out of Avalon for two years. Since I suspect they'd be slightly more irritated if she withdrew from the program after they'd dumped two years worth of tuition into it, maybe she was in Guelph for reasons other than university for that time?<P><LI> I hope that Ryan and Deirdre are intelligent and mature enough to discuss this sensibly.<P><LI> (Edit-Add) Deirdre is the one who helped Mr. Page through his problems three years ago. So whatever she did couldn't have been that bad from his point of view.<P>------------------
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Postby aardvark on Tue May 08, 2001 5:44 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>Originally posted by Sterling:
<LI> Joe's reaction is definitely one of fright or total and complete shock. For some reason, seeing DD back so soon scared him badly. (<A HREF="http://www.avalonhigh.com/d/20001103.html" TARGET=_blank>2:40</A>)</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Deirdre knows (and probably is the only one who knows) that Joe pushed Todd down the stairs. Seeing her back in town has to have brought all that rushing back.<P>------------------
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Postby Hai-Etlik on Tue May 08, 2001 7:59 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by aardvark:
<B> Deirdre knows (and probably is the only one who knows) that Joe pushed Todd down the stairs. Seeing her back in town has to have brought all that rushing back.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The only one who knew THEN, (<a href="http://www.avalonhigh.com/d/20001207.html">2:64</a>).
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Postby Sterling on Tue May 08, 2001 9:32 am

Yeah, but would that really be sufficient cause for a shock of that magnitude?<P>Hmm... Evil Thought #2: We don't know what Mr. Page's first name is. I suppose it /could/ be Patrick, but I somehow seriously doubt it.<P>------------------
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Postby aardvark on Tue May 08, 2001 10:02 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hai-Etlik:
<B>The only one who knew THEN, (<a href="http://www.avalonhigh.com/d/20001207.html">2:64</a>).</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Point taken.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sterling:
<B>How did I miss this before? In 2:108, Mrs. Bradley says that they've been paying for three months of school. Deirdre's been out of Avalon for two years. Since I suspect they'd be slightly more irritated if she withdrew from the program after they'd dumped two years worth of tuition into it, maybe she was in Guelph for reasons other than university for that time?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Mrs. Bradley says they've <I>wasted</I> 3 months tuition; they've certainly paid more than that (unless Deirdre realized instantaneously that college was a mistake, which doesn't square with her "not working out" comment to Phoebe). Might not be two full years, might be. I agree that the original move to Guelph may have been motivated by factors other than Deirdre's deep love of learning.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sterling:
<B>Yeah, but would that really be sufficient cause for a shock of that magnitude?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Yes.<P>------------------
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Postby Kaoru on Tue May 08, 2001 10:09 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sterling:
<B><LI>(Edit-Add) Deirdre is the one who helped Mr. Page through his problems three years ago. So whatever she did couldn't have been that bad from his point of view.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Um when did this happen? I thought Mr. Page is Joe's dad. He ran off to Seattle. Do you mean Deirdre's dad, Mr. Bradley?
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Postby Pauline Hewitt on Tue May 08, 2001 10:18 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sterling:
Hmm... Evil Thought #2: We don't know what Mr. Page's first name is. I suppose it /could/ be Patrick, but I somehow seriously doubt it.[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Would Mrs. Page have taken her in so enthusiatically then? Interestingly she obviously (?) knew Deirdre but not her father. If Mrs. Bradley knew (and hated) Patrick I doubt that she would have failed to let Mrs. Page know. She does not seem shy about expressing herself.<br>
I'm still interested in the fact that Joe could never speak to Helene, made a spectacular hash of a relationship with Pheobe in a way that is carefully undefined, but was able to go to Deedee for help. Has she always had a sympathy for younger boys? Joe is the huge unsolved quandry at the centre of the Avalon story. Avalon may have started by looking like Ceilidh's story but I suspect that when you understand Joe the twists will finally unravel and I suppose Ceilidh is in for a hard trip finding out.<br>
Argh! I think my brain is going to explode<br>
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Postby The Incredible Hatboy on Tue May 08, 2001 11:49 am

I've GOT it!<P>DD meets Patrick pre-College. She falls hard for him. She chooses Guelph to be with him. After some time, she finds out that he's been going out with someone else the entire time - even before he met her - and DD's been the Other Woman.<P>------------------
Fragmented sentance?<P>Ryan + Diedre=Good!
Joe + Ceilidh=Good!
Cecil + Alison=Good!
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