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Postby Josh Phillips on Tue May 01, 2001 10:34 am

I was wondering if I should get rid of the Avalon Weekly Poll. I know that lately it's been anything but "weekly," and that's mostly because I can't come up with any good poll ideas. Also, occassionally the results reset themselves (stupid bug in the software). Plus, perhaps no one really notices it or even cares.<P>So, should it stay or go?<P>JOSH.
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Postby Trunkster on Tue May 01, 2001 10:40 am

Why don't you just start a weekly pool, and then at the end of each week just choose one of the suggested polls and use that? Saves you the trouble of thinking. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/smile.gif"><P>------------------
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Postby Quasispace on Tue May 01, 2001 10:56 am

Personally since it hasn't been updated in a while I'm not bothering to vote in it much. But I'm still partial to having the feature there every once in a while just because it'd be hell on UBB to try to keep track of people voting for any random thing you might think to put up there.<P>Though you could make that the new poll topic...<P>-----
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Postby Strangeone on Tue May 01, 2001 10:59 am

Personally since it hasn't been updated in a while I'm not bothering to vote in it much. But I'm still partial to having the feature there every once in a while just because it'd be hell on UBB to try to keep track of people voting for any random thing you might think to put up there.<P>Though you could make that the new poll topic...<P>-----
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Postby Josh Phillips on Tue May 01, 2001 10:59 am

Trunks: You're just trying to make me do more work. Stop it.<P>Quasi: So you suggest that I only use it for genuinely important questions? That makes sense, except that it's prone to losing data, and people voting more than once. :-/<P>JOSH.
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Postby Sterling on Wed May 02, 2001 4:06 am

I say get a forum member or IRCer to volunteer to come up with the polls for a given month. If you don't like one of the polls they turn out, just leave the previous weeks' poll up there.<P>I'm sure Jen Aside or NotDamonk could turn out some suitably insane polls.<P>------------------
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Postby Josh Phillips on Wed May 02, 2001 4:48 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lostfactor:
<B><LI>Are Ryan and Deidre actually shagging?
<ul>
<LI>Yes
<LI>No
<LI>Maybe
<LI>If I say yes, will you draw it?
</ul></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Josh's Poll Rule #1: Don't ask if you already know the answer.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
<LI>What do you think about the seriousness of the comic?
<ul>
<LI>It's too serious, you should make more gags.
<LI>It's too light-hearted - this is heavy stuff!
<LI>It's fine just the way it is.
</ul>
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Josh's Poll Rule #2: Don't ask a question if people are going to expect things to change as a result.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
<LI>Do you miss the Barq's jokes?
<ul>
<LI>Yes
<LI>No
<LI>This poll bites
</ul>
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>See Rule #2. :-)<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
<LI>Have you already voted in this poll?
<ul>
<LI>Yes
<LI>No
<LI>Isn't that a bit paradoxical?
</ul>
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I'm *positive* a variant of this has been used twice now...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
<LI>Do you know where the idea of pairing Damonk and Deidre started?
<ul>
<LI>Damonk got really sloshed one night, and...
<LI>NegativeZero got really sloshed one night, and...
<LI>Josh got really sloshed one night, and...
<LI>Something that didn't involve people getting sloshed.
</ul>
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Damonk had to get sloshed to obsess over Deirdre?? ;-)<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
<LI>What is the square root of AVALON?
<ul>
<LI>(AVALON) ^ .5
<LI>42
<LI>Move 'zig' for great justice
<LI>This is moronic
</ul>
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>A poll composed entirely of throw-away options. Hoo boy. ;-) But Rule #3 was: Don't offer a throw-away answer, because that's what everyone will pick.<P>Anyways, way back when, I always asked people to submit poll ideas, but I got about 5 (total, ever, in the history of Avalon). So I just quit asking. :-) If people were to develop poll ideas often enough, it would be a huge help to me. Granted, after a month or two I'll have to threaten to remove the poll again to revive the poll ideas. :-)<P>Trunks: I apologize for being snippy, but that's how I am these days. :-P Right now, setting up anything = more work, despite the intent to reduce overall workload.<P>JOSH.
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Postby lostfactor on Wed May 02, 2001 5:55 am

I like the poll, myself - it's a neat little thing to do, and it's not yet another BeSeen quizlet. ("No, Walky, I will not love you when your characters are old and fat. I'm not terribly fond of you RIGHT NOW." <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif"> ) And I totally agree with the idea of making other people come up with the poll topics - all you'd have to do is post them up there. For example:
<ul>
<li>Are Ryan and Deidre actually shagging?
<ul>
<li>Yes
<li>No
<li>Maybe
<li>If I say yes, will you draw it?
</ul>
<li>What do you think about the seriousness of the comic?
<ul>
<li>It's too serious, you should make more gags.
<li>It's too light-hearted - this is heavy stuff!
<li>It's fine just the way it is.
</ul>
<li>Do you miss the Barq's jokes?
<ul>
<li>Yes
<li>No
<li>This poll bites
</ul>
<li>Have you already voted in this poll?
<ul>
<li>Yes
<li>No
<li>Isn't that a bit paradoxical?
</ul>
<li>Do you know where the idea of pairing Damonk and Deidre started?
<ul>
<li>Damonk got really sloshed one night, and...
<li>NegativeZero got really sloshed one night, and...
<li>Josh got really sloshed one night, and...
<li>Something that didn't involve people getting sloshed.
</ul>
<li>What is the square root of AVALON?
<ul>
<li>(AVALON) ^ .5
<li>42
<li>Move 'zig' for great justice
<li>This is moronic
</ul>
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Postby Kaoru on Wed May 02, 2001 6:05 am

Having a thread where people post poll ideas might work...
Would that work for you Josh? Or do you just not have enough time to set them up?
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Postby Jen Aside on Wed May 02, 2001 6:19 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sterling:
<B>I'm sure Jen Aside or NotDamonk could turn out some suitably insane polls.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
Actually, you can see MY polls for yourself... <A HREF="http://sgp.keenspace.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://sgp.keenspace.com/</A> (yep, I've archived the old polls... how thoughtful of me)
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Postby lostfactor on Wed May 02, 2001 7:17 am

First Poll: Come on, Josh, like knowing the answer stops any of us from debating it. You could post the entire remainder of the story tomorrow and we'd STILL debate over it.<P>Second Poll: ...okay, conceded.<P>Third Poll: Actually, I don't have a clear memory of writing that one. I think I was on the phone with Erin at the time.<P>Fourth Poll: Then ask if you've voted in a variant of this poll, maybe? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif"><P>Fifth Poll: Well, no, it saves me from having to know the actual answer.<P>Sixth Poll: Hey, if they're ALL throw-away answers, then who knows what they'll pick? It might be interesting!<P>Actually, the sixth was the only joke I had, but I felt compelled to write others to prove a point. I wish I knew what that point was.
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Postby Davie daWeird on Wed May 02, 2001 7:31 am

They're not <I>all</I> throw-away answers, it's just a silly poll. The square root of Avalon <I>would</I> be (AVALON) ^ .5, so we could use the poll as a test to see how math-litterate Avalon readers are. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif"><P>Personally, though, I still like the answer 42. I'm just a softy for that, I know the joke is overused. Maybe that answer should be 6.48074 (the square root of 42), since Avalon <u>is</u> the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything.<P>Peace,
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Postby Usa-chan on Wed May 02, 2001 7:49 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Josh Phillips:
<B>I was wondering if I should get rid of the Avalon Weekly Poll. I know that lately it's been anything but "weekly," and that's mostly because I can't come up with any good poll ideas. Also, occassionally the results reset themselves (stupid bug in the software). Plus, perhaps no one really notices it or even cares.<P>So, should it stay or go?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
NO JOSH, please don't ge rid of it! I care a lot about the polls, because I always contributed my votes to them and found them fun to begin with. And also, if you're having trouble with poll ideas, Uc and I could help you out with some ideas if you want. So don't get rid of the polls, please?<P><p>[This message has been edited by Usa-chan (edited 05-02-2001).]
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Postby Jen Aside on Wed May 02, 2001 8:51 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Davie daWeird:
<B>Personally, though, I still like the answer 42. I'm just a softy for that, I know the joke is overused. Maybe that answer should be 6.48074 (the square root of 42), since Avalon <u>is</u> the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
Now, now, forty-two is merely the Answer to the Ultimate Question (which is, of course, "What do you get when you multiply six times nine?"). Meaning that Avalon = 1764.
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Postby Quasispace on Wed May 02, 2001 8:59 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Josh Phillips:
<B>Quasi: So you suggest that I only use it for genuinely important questions? That makes sense, except that it's prone to losing data, and people voting more than once. :-/<P>JOSH.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Really? I thought the Poll Ideas thread had like 100+ replies... I guess most of them weren't actually ideas then...<P>Well based on Poll Rule #2, I didn't think you placed anything really important there anyway...<P>About the lost votes and the multivotes. Polls screw up all the time. I just look at the results simply to see what other readers think about things.(for me it's more about the relative numbers than the percentages...) Though for certain Polls, I don't even need to bother looking (refer to Hentai Option in "Avalon As" Poll)<P>As for more work on your part, yeah that does suck. Perhaps you can force John to choose a topic from a options mentioned in channel <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/biggrin.gif">.<P>-----
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Postby Jen Aside on Wed May 02, 2001 9:14 am

Two thoughts, Mr. Phillips:
<ol>
<li>What poll service do you use? I use FreePolls (freepolls.com), and they seem mostly reliable insofar that I've not actually lost any votes (that I'm aware of--and I check the results fairly often).
<li>Have you considered putting a "today's date" function in the header or somewhere? I've started pasting it in my index page so that readers can know when the last update was.
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Postby Dynonychus on Wed May 02, 2001 9:26 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Josh Phillips:
<B>I was wondering if I should get rid of the Avalon Weekly Poll<P>So, should it stay or go?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Perhaps you should put <I>this</I> in the Weekly Poll <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/biggrin.gif"><P><P>------------------
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Postby John Campbell on Wed May 02, 2001 10:29 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><I>Originally posted by Quasispace:</I>
As for more work on your part, yeah that does suck. Perhaps you can force John to choose a topic from a options mentioned in channel <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/biggrin.gif">.
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Postby Sterling on Wed May 02, 2001 10:45 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dynonychus:
<B> Perhaps you should put <I>this</I> in the Weekly Poll <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/biggrin.gif">
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Excellent idea!<P>What should happen to the weekly poll?
(a) Trash it! Its worthless anyway!
(b) Keep it as it is!
(c) Choose a Worthy Fan from the BBS or IRC to do polls for a month/week/whatever
(d) Choose polls at random from a BBS thread<P>(Consider this an implicit vote for options c and d. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif"> )
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Postby Zero-San on Wed May 02, 2001 10:53 am

here's my poll suggestion (mostly cuse I know it'll piss Sara_Lynn off to no extent ^_^)<P>Should Iain be killed by slowly being lowerd into an industral belt-sander?<P>o YES! for the love of GOD kill the man!
o Yes, I want to urinate on his remins!
o Yes!!!
o Yea...<P>kinda one-sided, ne? ^_^
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Postby Jen Aside on Wed May 02, 2001 11:07 am

Where did you disappear to, Josh? <IMG SRC="http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/kao/chika/chirol_gusun.gif"> NEVER LEAVE US AGAIN!!! <IMG SRC="http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/kao/chika/chirolp_gusun.gif"> <P>*chains Josh to Deirdre*
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Postby krowgoat on Wed May 02, 2001 11:11 am

Josh, how about you have people give you possible polls? If it means more sanity for you, then drop the damn thing, but I figure that enough of us loonies can think of a few polls. I'm not sure if that is what Trunkster was talking about, but if it is, then I agree. Yes. Must sleep. Hate school. and the peasants rejoice....yay!<P>-el goato<P>------------------

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Postby Trunkster on Wed May 02, 2001 11:20 am

Err, the intent of my suggestion was to REDUCE your workload, not increase. No need to get snippy. :P<P>------------------
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Postby Quasispace on Thu May 03, 2001 2:42 am

Zero: for a second there I thought you were planning to tweak Asha...
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