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Postby Shizumaru on Fri Apr 27, 2001 12:20 am

Mmm. I doubt that Ryan is so immature as to let that comment completely blow things up so quickly. His reaction in that last panel might be just the initial gut reaction to that comment--however, he should be smart enough to realize that Deirdre doesn't particularly want to tell her sister about what's going on. And he probably shouldn't want that to get out yet, either. Otherwise, he probably would have said something by now. He's certainly had plenty of opportunity to reveal it.<P>Of course, this is assuming that they really are dating. :> There is the possibility that they aren't, and Ryan's interested in something more, and is bah'ing in that manner. And I have a good female friend who's called me 'sweetie' and such, and we're strictly platonic. Deirdre just might be that type of girl.<P>Well, I don't like to speculate too much when it comes to Avalon, as I could be very wrong. So I'll just present the possibilities, and not insist that this one must be right, or that one. n.n; We'll see soon enough.<P>------------------
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Postby ckern on Fri Apr 27, 2001 12:21 am

So basically there are three proposed theories so far:<P>1. Ryan hears Deedee call him "just a friend", and is worried that she really does think about him that way.<P>2. Ryan hears Deedee tell Feeb that he's just a friend, and wonders why they can't be honest with people about their relationship.<P>3. Ryan hears "just a friend" and decides to be a smug bastard and say, "Yeah right, we're more than that, ha ha."<P>It's really hard to speculate (non-wildly) about this because we've seen so little of R&D's relationship (this is what, the 4th or 5th strip it's even been alluded to in?)<P>So we'll have to wait until tomorrow (nooo!)<P>-Chris
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Postby karasuhebi on Fri Apr 27, 2001 12:24 am

I'll side with the more recent assessments of Bah as "yeah right." It could be that he's wondering why Diedre won't admit to the relationship, but I think bah! is too flippant for that. I think more would be reading a bit into it. <P>This assumes one thing: After 6 months, this is a serious relationship (However covert). That assumption may or may not be valid. 6 months is about 3X my usual relationship, and rather long by high school standards. However, we haven't even seen them kiss once.<P>I'd say she was a flirtatious type too, but I've never heard her call anyone 'sweetie' before. She has a different flavor than that normally.<P>Josh: It has been ~ 6 months for them, hasn't it? We're not all loopy, are we? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/biggrin.gif"><P>------------------
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Postby Chuckg on Fri Apr 27, 2001 12:48 am

Well, remember that it's <I>Phoebe</I> that Deeds was keeping the secret of Ryan from, not just anybody. Feebs, as in "The girl that has threatened Ryan with death multiple times just for hanging around him".<P>I think Ryan should be able to understand why Deirdre would not tell Phoebe that she and him were an item without getting Ryan's permission first... which she could hardly ask for on the phone right that second.
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Postby Renimar on Fri Apr 27, 2001 1:20 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karasuhebi:
<B>This assumes one thing: After 6 months, this is a serious relationship (However covert). That assumption may or may not be valid. 6 months is about 3X my usual relationship, and rather long by high school standards. However, we haven't even seen them kiss once.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I don't know I necessarily agree with it. Perhaps they've just been meeting to talk now and again. Initially about Phoebe, but then afterwards, just because they enjoy each other's company. Besides, it probably gets pretty boring at the Tim Horton's. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/smile.gif"><P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
I'd say she was a flirtatious type too, but I've never heard her call anyone 'sweetie' before. She has a different flavor than that normally.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Flirtatious isn't something I quite saw her as. Joe's description of 'Deirdre had a reputation of being a bully', and the picture in the Cast page show lend a more... assertive personality. But, who knows. Maybe Deedee's <i>in luuuuv</i>. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif">
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Postby Tetravus on Fri Apr 27, 2001 2:08 am

As I read Ryan's thinking those lines, I sense a great disturbance in the force..... I sense something twisty will happen... <P>So, the real question that springs into my mind like a lion on a wildebeast: "Does Deidre really have an... interest in Ryan, and she was merely blowing it off to Phoebe just because, or does she think of Ryan as, 'just a friend'?"<P>Oh, and we have a weekend to think on this matter too, how convenient.... Josh, My hat goes off to you, your delaying tactics have worked wonders to set up yet another rich cliffhanger... Who taught you such masterful techniques?
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Postby Pimple on Fri Apr 27, 2001 2:10 am

Except there will be a new comic tomorrow. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/smile.gif"><P>Pimple.
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Postby John Campbell on Fri Apr 27, 2001 2:14 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><I>Originally posted by Tetravus:</I>
So, the real question that springs into my mind like a lion on a wildebeast: "Does Deidre really have an... interest in Ryan, and she was merely blowing it off to Phoebe just because, or does she think of Ryan as, 'just a friend'?"
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>"Bye sweetie!" ... need I say more?
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Postby Tetravus on Fri Apr 27, 2001 2:18 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pimple:
<B>Except there will be a new comic tomorrow. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/smile.gif">
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>"...but more than likely there will have to be a new one on Saturday."<P>I ask you.... do you really believe that he will actually put one up tomorrow? he has us right where he wants us - he has his cliffhanger, he can use the extra comic on Monday to further the story in the fashion he's done so well in the past.....<P>He *claims* to only have the story roughed out, and *claims* to not have time to work on it...<P>I shouldn't be surprised if the entire piece is already written, or if he hasn't already set himself up well in advance... These pauses, these breaks are strategic delaying actions, nothing more...<P>Look at the story this week... some fillers about Phoebe's hair dye, some fan art, and then Friday, BOOM - a bombshell that would make nuclear power proud....<P>He has everyone on the edges of their seats right now.......<P>He's doing this all deliberately... You know he is.......
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Postby Mnemoi on Fri Apr 27, 2001 2:46 am

Well, I read through this thread, then looked back at the comic....and I'm going with the "yeah right" theory. While everyone views Ryan's face as thinking, it looks more like the smug confident male ego in full swing....<P>Geez, never thought I'd be saying Ryan and confident in the same sentence when I started reading this comic.<P>------------------
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Postby Dynonychus on Fri Apr 27, 2001 2:51 am

I'm pretty sure that she was blowing it off to Phoebe. Something tells me she's still trying to keep her relationship with Ryan somewhat hush-hush... especially to Phoebe, since she was the one Ryan was interested in before Deirdre (and indeed was the very cause of their meeting). I also believe her reasoning for keeping it quiet is for mutual protection... she doesn't want her family picking apart her choosen companion (thus further straining an already tense relationship), nor is she certain how Phoebe would react once she heard who Deirdre was going out with (Phoebe already threatened to kill him once, so Deirdre may be concerned about Ryan getting his head handed to him).<P>And, of course, there's the possible concern that Ryan still has feelings for Phoebe...<P>Ryan, on the other hand, has just gotten a mixed signal, which gives him cause for concern. Realistically, he <I>should</I> have no cause for concern... they've been seeing each other for close to six months now, she just got off an hour-long phone call with him, and even ended by setting up a meeting and calling him "sweetie". However, that "just a friend" line sets off an immense array of red, flashing warning signs for <B>ANY</B> guy... geeks especially, since they are ordinarilly resistant to reading signals more subtle than a baseball bat to the back of the skull <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/biggrin.gif"> <P>No, I'm sure the "Just Friends" Line will gnaw at him for a while... at least until he can meet her that night. And perhaps she'll try to reassure him... at least, until Phoebe walks in, having been within earshot of Deirdre setting up the meet, and curious as to her sister's new "friend". And then something will be recalled of Ryan's conversation with Iain (though rather innocent, it could be misinterpreted), and then ALL hell will break loose...<P>------------------
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Postby ckern on Fri Apr 27, 2001 3:40 am

On closer inspection of the comic (using paint to zoom in on Ryan's face), I believe that his facial expression is meant to be a smile rather than any sort of worried expression. <P>Argh, we need tomorrow's comic <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/smile.gif"><P>-Chris
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Postby Al-Azif on Fri Apr 27, 2001 4:40 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by John Campbell:
<B> "Bye sweetie!" ... need I say more?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Some very flirtatious girls use terms like "sweetie," "babe," and "honey" for any and all of their guy friends. Deirdre strikes as one of those uber-gregarious types of girls. It may be meaningless but it also may not be.<P>For great twistiness.
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Postby Wapiko on Fri Apr 27, 2001 5:05 am

She called him "sweetie"...<P><I>Wapiko-chan rolls on the floor giggling.</I><P>I know that it is used in lots of ways, but the only people I've actually had say that to me is my aunt and my grandmother...<P>Wapiko-chan<P>------------------
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Postby rchanen on Fri Apr 27, 2001 5:37 am

Dynonychus' theory strikes me as the most likely. Given Josh's twistiness. Which is why it won't happen. Instead, Ryan will be taken hostage by women who look disturbingly like the new Charlie's angels. Forcing DeeDee to rescue him with her leet skillz.
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Postby Sterling on Fri Apr 27, 2001 5:46 am

(1) IS that Phoebe in today's strip? It definitely looks like it (the lack of glasses initially threw me, but you can see her polishing them). It could also be Mrs. Bradley, but I don't think so.<P>(2) If Ryan doesn't know that Deirdre was talking to Phoebe there, I suspect she'll mention it "tonight".<P>(3) It's hard to tell if Phoebe would be mad about Deirdre and Ryan or not. On one hand, she does hate all males, but on the other, I suspect she's kind of grown used to having Ryan obsessing over her. Hard call....<P>I personally hope that Ryan and Deirdre are both serious about things... Unless there's some big secret about one or both we don't know, they seem like they'd be good for each other. And they make a kawaiiiiii couple! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/biggrin.gif"><P>(Edit-Add: Oh, and the "just friends" card is definitely a big red flag for any geek that something's not going right. Never mind that it does have perfectly legitimate uses, as today's comic demonstrates.... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif"> )<P>------------------
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Postby rchanen on Fri Apr 27, 2001 6:01 am

Just friends... and you've got that sinking feeling. This is probably going to push Ryan over the edge from geek to nut. Having to worry about Deedee like that. But damn what a cool storyline.<P>------------------
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Postby ScrumptiousJack on Fri Apr 27, 2001 6:06 am

Words cannot describe how happy I am that Josh has brought us back to the Phoebe/Deirdre/Ryan saga....
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Postby The Paco on Fri Apr 27, 2001 6:18 am

Poor old Ryan isn't too much in the 'express emotions' department, can't tell if he's pissed or not since he almost always looks like that.<P>Time shall tell, but if I were dating DeeDee, I dun think I would advertise it a lot, if only to have a bit of peace.<P>The Non-Betazoid Paco<P>------------------
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Postby Dynonychus on Fri Apr 27, 2001 6:25 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sterling:
[B It's hard to tell if Phoebe would be mad about Deirdre and Ryan or not. On one hand, she does hate all males, but on the other, I suspect she's kind of grown used to having Ryan obsessing over her. Hard call....[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I don't know if Phoebe would be upset about "losing" Ryan to Deirdre, but I suspect she <I>would</I> be protective of her sister. It may be she doesn't know the "real" Ryan (assuming <I>we</I> do, that is <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/smile.gif">), just the little geek that's been fawning over her since (probably) the end of their 9th-grade year. So it could be she suspects the worst from him; here he seems to have given up on Phoebe, then she hears Ryan and Iain (well, Iain, really) discussing the topic of sex, but since she bolted, she doesn't know the outcome of said conversation... she just hears a couple guys talking about it, so she thinks she knows <I>exactly</I> where they're going with it. NOW it seems possible she might find out who Deirdre's "friend" is and go ballistic... her vulnerable sister (dropped out of university, broken up with boyfriend, troubles at home) being chased by that hormonally-charged beast Ryan. <P>OR,
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Postby rchanen on Fri Apr 27, 2001 6:39 am

Poor ryan. The innocent guy always gets it in the end. I think deirdre is patient enough to work through any misunderstanding that ryan has about the "just friends." So I don't think they'll be splitting up on that end. Ryan might freak. Phoebe probably will.<P>Here's... a new thought. What if Ryan was not pissed at her saying just friends. What if he knew that Deirdre was talking to Phoebe because he heard her voice on the phone. What if instead of being pissed he was thinking: "Just friends"(Am I just Deirdre's friend?) "Bah" (I think fucking not, pardon my profanity).<P>------------------
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Postby Dynonychus on Fri Apr 27, 2001 6:40 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Paco:
<B>Poor old Ryan isn't too much in the 'express emotions' department, can't tell if he's pissed or not since he almost always looks like that.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Oh, yes... that's his "thinking" look. And when Ryan thinks, countries tremble <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/biggrin.gif"><P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>Time shall tell, but if I were dating DeeDee, I dun think I would advertise it a lot, if only to have a bit of peace.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Especially with friends like Iain hanging around... it would be like taking little kids on a long road trip:
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Postby Jen Aside on Fri Apr 27, 2001 8:14 am

Except that tomorrow's comic will bring wishes for the day after tomorrow's comic... or, whatever.<P>Arr! I am pissy because I was reminded that Kiseiju/Parasyte in MixxZine was cut off at Chapter 17, despite the opportunity to leave a perfect non-cliffhanger with Chapter 16...
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Postby Myriad on Fri Apr 27, 2001 8:33 am

Two questions to consider:<P>(1) What will Deirdre and Ryan say when they explain how they met and why they first started seeing one another? Somehow, I don't think "Well, Ryan needed help winning over Feebs" would fly too well with certain parties ...<P>(2) This may be a bit of a stretch, but didn't Noelle see her and Ryan talking at Tim Horton's way back in January? The
<A HREF="http://www.avalonhigh.com/d/20010201.html" TARGET=_blank>strip</A> doesn't explicitly state it, but if anyone were in on the secret, wouldn't it be her?<P>-MyrIAd-<P><P>------------------
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Postby Wapiko on Fri Apr 27, 2001 9:27 am

Okay, I have to say something here. Could it possibly be that we may not be giving enough credit here to "poor Ryan".<P>I mean, Phoebe was right there behind Deirdre. There's a good chance that Ryan heard who she was talking to. He might simply be expressing his feelings about how Deirdre is trying to conceal anything that is going on between them from any other people, including Phoebe.<P>I mean, we already can guess that she confides in Ryan more than she does anyone else, and he probably knows her situation. Deirdre could have asked him to keep things a secret from everyone. And it just may be that he now wants to let others know that they are an "item" but Deirdre doesn't want to. The "Bah" at the end of his comment seems to imply that, rather than confusion about the "just friends".<P>Wapiko-chan<P>------------------
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