two wrote: and the drawing style got exceedingly realistic and colorful.
Road Waffles: Extremely original, the atmospheres of Tarantino's movies brought to a comic strip, complete with slightly surreal yet somehow plausible cast, left to the unlimited possibilities of the on-the-road background. Spoiling time: when Eight began adding alternate universes, complex plots, aliens, etc.
College Roomies From Hell: One of the first strips about college roomies, and possibly the best one. Drew in a pleasant beetle-baileyesque style and always funny, of that kind of sitcom fun that anyone can grasp and enjoy. Spoiling time: when the author began adding aliens, mutations, zombies (you're beginning to see a pattern, don't you?), and the drawing style got exceedingly realistic and colorful.
Jamie wrote:I wonder if there is a webcomic version of the Beatles, a comic that started out great, remained great despite its changes and then ended at the height of its success.
two wrote:Think of mr Schulz's Peanuts: for fifty years he drew the antics of a group of kids involved in nothing but the daily deeds of normal kids living in a normal town. The characters eventually evolved and grew some unique peculiarities, yet the plot was the same and so was the overall feeling of the strip. When now and then he wanted to take a rest and free his imagination, he used the special character he reserved for such cases: Snoopy.
communist trees wrote:So improving the art is a bad thing? Sorry if I don't completely understand this...
tweebus wrote:But take the Simpsons for example. The shows been on 10 years. It has done just about everything you can think
Marcos wrote:Jamie wrote:I wonder if there is a webcomic version of the Beatles, a comic that started out great, remained great despite its changes and then ended at the height of its success.
I don't know about webcomics, but in the print comic world, Calvin & Hobbes seems to fit the description perfectly.
two wrote:Ok, let me recap.
Improving is good. But is not necessarily good relatively to a certain environment. Think of the Peanuts drawn like...uhm...Marvel comics. Can you see it?
Maritza Campos wrote:I disagree about this. In the first place, talking about artistic style, it took Schulz decades to *finally* set into a style.
two wrote:That's true, but although his style evolved, changed, transformed, it basically stayed simple and minimalistic. As I wrote before, can you see Charlie Brown drawn with lighting effects, shadows, blurred backgrounds and so on?
communist trees wrote:It would appear that grammar is for children as well.
Phalanx wrote:I think Eric Burns of Websnark calls this the Cerebus and First and Ten Syndrome.
Maritza Campos wrote:Secondly, newspaper comic strips are all about the repetition. You never see any changes in them. Change is *discouraged* by their audience and editors. Characters remain always the same age, make the same mistakes and jokes over and over again, behave in a predictable way. This is *comfortable* to some people, who are happy to see that even when the world out there changes, some things always remain the same.
BOMC wrote:I think it would be constraining for an artist to try and keep their comic the same or at least relatively the same for a long period of time.
I guess this brings up the question of whether you think a cartoonist should be making their comic for their readers or for their own enjoyment.... if it's for their own enjoyment, they should be allowed to experiment and take the story where they want, and in a direction they feel is better than what they are doing. That doesn't mean the reader has to like it, or continue reading, but they should respect the artist's decision.
gwalla wrote:Phalanx wrote:I think Eric Burns of Websnark calls this the Cerebus and First and Ten Syndrome.
Cerberus Syndrome and First and Ten Syndrome are different. Essentially, Cerberus Syndrome is when an attempt to give a funny comic depth succeeds, and First and Ten Syndrome is when it fails.
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