When did I mention that the libertarians directly endorsed such policies? And why are you so angry about my saying so anyway? Indeed, I think legislized slavery and child prostitution is an implication of libertarian principles. Take self-ownership, for example. If a person were sued for an overdue debt payment and lacked collatoral, what legal mechanism would be in place to stop the plaintiff from claiming "ownership" over said individual? Presumably none. If an individual indeed "owns himself" and is legally obliged to repaying such a debt, in an ideal libertarian system, there would exist no such constraint on the market.<P>This goes for 'voluntary' slavery as well. If an individual or family is in a desperate position, say, the need for shelter, clothing or food, if these people indeed "own themselves", what ethical grounds does the State have in order to intervene in such a transaction?<P>And who the fuck said that the libertarian party's interpretation of libertarianism as a philosophical concept was ever canon anyway? Actually, Muad_Dib, I subscribe to anarcho-syndicalism. This, in my opinion, is the only acceptable form of libertarian philosophy, since private property constitutes a very real (and often brutal and degrading)authoritarian institution. <P>In fact, the inadequacy of right-libertarianism was alluded by Ayn Rand herself, in "Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal", which dealt with her distinction of libertarianism as advocating freedom from the state and the state alone, not the employer.<P>Oh, and another thing: before you start spouting Ayn Rand and David Friedman quotes post-verbatim, a syndrome that many libertarians on the 'net I've found are quite prone to, I'm not attempting to evangelize or shun any potential party converts (funny, how "the third largest political party in America" constitutes about one-fiftieth of the Democratic and Republican parties <I>combined</I> <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/smile.gif">). <P>I also have little concern for what "correct" interpretation of the libertarian platform that party evangelists have proferred. To me, these are deeply ethical problems rooted in libertarian thought. I could care less of "what a real libertarian would advocate" as a matter of principle, since, on principle, they are party evangelists.<P>I'm a dirty, lying, coming punk thug,
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"Only government is force, no matter how many Indians were killed by settlers to acquire their property, no matter how many blacks were enslaved and sold by private companies, no matter how many heads of union members are broken by private police."
-- Mike Huben
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