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Postby B.T. Isaac on Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:37 pm

Wellkome to my avatar thread. This post starts with the oldest avys I made (JPEGs) followed by the more recent ones. You are free to use any of them I you like.

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I got bored this weekend. Here's what I did.
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Postby Dayantis on Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:23 pm

They look good, other than .jpeg compression artefacts. Try saving as .png instead, it'll look better.

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Postby BtEtta on Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:26 pm

Some nice work there, but somewhat marred but excessive JPEG artifacts. What program are you using to create them, perhaps you should look into its settings dialogs and see if you can set a higher quality value when saving JPEGs.

Or use PNG.
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Postby B.T. Isaac on Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:04 pm

I use Photoshop. I'll try PNG format next time. Thanks for the advise.
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Postby Illusionist on Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:28 am

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Postby cidhighwind767 on Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:23 am

How do you actually get them into a thread?
I have stuff at the house I'd put up, but I don't know how.
Some very good stuff BTW.
Just put it into PNG and they'll be fine.
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Postby azrael_2001 on Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:29 am

You are saving the original edits as a .PSD, right? as in, these are just the .JPG's you made from the original files and there are still .PSD's somewhere on your HDD?

Anyway, to get pictures online, there are many many services that will host random pics for free, such as the ever-popular http://www.imageshack.com or my personal favourite, http://www.Photobucket.com
Just upload your pics to one of those and paste the URL they give you between [img]tags[/img] like that.
Do it right and you get something like this:
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Postby B.T. Isaac on Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:50 am

azrael_2001 wrote:You are saving the original edits as a .PSD, right? as in, these are just the .JPG's you made from the original files and there are still .PSD's somewhere on your HDD?


Uhh... I didn't really understood that, could you be a little clearer, if possible? Anyway, I just cropped, coloured and resized the images, and got these JPG's I uploaded. What exactly is the problem with JPG's? Just wondering.
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Postby xyzzy_n on Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:12 am

The problem with the JPEG format is that its compression loses information from the image and introduces compression artefacts which are especially noticeable in images with lots of lines. Use PNG for most avatars and indeed images, GIF for animated avatars, JPEG for photography and scans. And always keep a copy in the format of your graphics software with separate layers etc.

I ought to write an FAQ, but I suspect somebody already has done that and people just don
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Postby R3@P3R on Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:34 am

Talking about animated, my home computer doesn't "play" them. I just get to see the first picture. Does anyone know something about this?
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Postby Tyris on Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:59 am

That all said, PNG has its own problems in that you have only 256 colours, not 16 million.
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Postby xyzzy_n on Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:04 pm

Tyris wrote:That all said, PNG has its own problems in that you have only 256 colours, not 16 million.
You mean GIF. PNG does, in fact, support 2<sup>24</sup> ≈ 16.8 million colours.
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Postby azrael_2001 on Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:09 pm

B.T. Isaac wrote:
azrael_2001 wrote:You are saving the original edits as a .PSD, right? as in, these are just the .JPG's you made from the original files and there are still .PSD's somewhere on your HDD?


Uhh... I didn't really understood that, could you be a little clearer, if possible? Anyway, I just cropped, coloured and resized the images, and got these JPG's I uploaded. What exactly is the problem with JPG's? Just wondering.

Photoshop has its own native file format which preserves everything about the image, from the layers and masks you may have used to the undo history (I think). That format is .PSD and takes up rather more space than a .jpg or .png which is one of the reasons it is not used as an inline image format. jpg's and png's on the other hand don't preserve any of that useful information, though they are much smaller and therfore suitable for transmission over limited bandwidth connections.
Most people will, when working with a program like photoshop save one copy of whatever they're working on in the native format in case they ever want to go back and change stuff and one or more compressed copies suitable for transfer over the internet.
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Postby Tyris on Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:23 pm

xyzzy_n wrote:
Tyris wrote:That all said, PNG has its own problems in that you have only 256 colours, not 16 million.
You mean GIF. PNG does, in fact, support 2<sup>24</sup> ≈ 16.8 million colours.
Then why do all my PNGs open in 2<sup>8</sup> = 256 colours?
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Postby B.T. Isaac on Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:33 pm

Wow. Thanks for the advises. I'll check them when makeing the next avatars. I will not redo these ones though. I already went thru a lot of trouble just colouring, posting, removeing, reposting etc to get them in the thread. Consider them tests.
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Postby xyzzy_n on Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:45 pm

Tyris wrote:Then why do all my PNGs open in 2<sup>8</sup> = 256 colours?
Because you save them that way? Or did you forget to sacrifice a goat to Shannon, the god of compression?
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Postby BtEtta on Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:40 pm

xyzzy_n wrote:
Tyris wrote:That all said, PNG has its own problems in that you have only 256 colours, not 16 million.
You mean GIF. PNG does, in fact, support 2<sup>24</sup> ≈ 16.8 million colours.
Not to mention the fact that PNG also supports 256 levels of opacity on each pixel in the image.

You can save palleted PNGs though, and if you open a GIF file and save it out as PNG without explicitly changing anything you will most likely get such a file (though it'll almost certainly be smaller than the GIF).
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Postby B.T. Isaac on Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:37 am

I've updated my list of avatars, and I would really appreciate some feedback on them.

I was thinking of posting some strips I coloured. Can I post them here, or is there some sort of trick with posting them them?
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Postby Illusionist on Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:55 am

Holy wow have you been busy.

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Postby xyzzy_n on Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:07 am

B.T. Isaac wrote:I was thinking of posting some strips I coloured.
Please see [url=http://forums.keenspot.com/viewtopic.php?p=1194878#1194878]Dan
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Postby B.T. Isaac on Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:54 am

Wow. Thanks for the warning. There's no way I could have found this myself. I almost made a really big mistake.
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Postby BtEtta on Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:00 am

B.T. Isaac wrote:I've updated my list of avatars, and I would really appreciate some feedback on them.

I was thinking of posting some strips I coloured. Can I post them here, or is there some sort of trick with posting them them?
My you have been busy, excellent work.

B.T. Isaac wrote:The following are the new ones. They are all PNG, exept for the jeremy avatar, wich was too large, and I had to compress it.
Depending on how much over the limit it was you might have had some success taking it under the limit with PNGOUT (the command-line version is free.)
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Postby Kelvandil on Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:37 pm

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B.T. Isaac wrote:I was thinking of posting some strips I coloured.
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Postby B.T. Isaac on Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:34 am

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B.T. Isaac wrote:I was thinking of posting some strips I coloured.
Please see [url=http://forums.keenspot.com/viewtopic.php?p=1194878#1194878]Dan
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Postby B.T. Isaac on Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:30 am

Well, I updated again. Like allways, I would appreciate some feedback.
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