Ollie_Vera wrote:What's that all about?
kash wrote:I don't get that.
X-mas is just a shortening of the term, but everybody think's it's an attempt to take the christ out.
The X REPRESENTS the cross!
Wikipedia wrote:The occasionally felt belief that the "X" represents the cross Christ was crucified on has no basis in fact; regardless, St Andrew's Cross is X-shaped, but Christ's cross was probably shaped like a T or a †.
oenone wrote:kash wrote:Okay, how about Happy Go-Fuck-Yourself! I was just trying to be nice in the season of love!
wow, THAT'S cheerful.
oenone wrote:if it's about the sentiment, then what's the problem with saying "happy holidays?"
CharSol wrote:I also have a problem with this and it irks me that we can't put christmas decorations up at work incase someone is offended by it. You would have to be very insecure in your faith if you are offended by someone else celebrating a holiday of theirs publically.
X-mas ( P ) (krsms, ksms)n.
[From X, the Greek letter chi, first letter of Greek Khrstos, Christ. See Christ.]
Usage Note: Xmas has been used for hundreds of years in religious writing, where the X represents a Greek chi, the first letter of, "Christ." In this use it is parallel to other forms like Xtian, "Christian." But people unaware of the Greek origin of this X often mistakenly interpret Xmas as an informal shortening pronounced (ksms). Many therefore frown upon the term Xmas because it seems to them a commercial convenience that omits Christ from Christmas.
Bizarrely, it completely omits any reference to alternative lifestyles or kinks of any kind. I bet you could write to the American Heritage people and complain, though. They'd probably like that.
El Durazno Muerte wrote:I thought that the X was supposed to be like the Greek letter Chi. That X-lookin' thing in the Chi-Rho symbol that Emperor Constantine used as one of the first symbols of Christianity?
oenone wrote:but i know that i got some flack for having a poster of a page from the qu'ran on the wall, and that one of my other friends was criticized for having a framed print of the 100 names of god in arabic on her wall.
meanwhile every fri during lent we get fish as a campus community, and have vacations set up around easter and xmas... and it's not like you have the same ability to go home during eid or solstice as you do then. in situations like that, which are, again, really liberal contexts, you do start to feel like everywhere you go someone's pushing christianity at you as not just a faith system but a way of life. and all you're trying to do is decorate your room, and, you know, live. :p
Ollie_Vera wrote:IAlso still waiting for an answer for that mysterious banner "ad" that I know I did not imagine.
kash wrote:Well all the drama about it irks me.
Why do people get so offended, to the point where in the stores in the mall (or in fast food) we weren't allowed to wish someone Merry Christmas.
We got this big lecture about having to use Happy Holidays, or just sticking to "have a nice day"
iRobot wrote:Ollie_Vera wrote:IAlso still waiting for an answer for that mysterious banner "ad" that I know I did not imagine.
Had nothing to do with the 5 hits of acid you dropped, either--does it? ;)
Generally, I think people can be oversensitive about the issue. I've heard people become outraged over faith-centered holiday wishes, and I've also seen people become outraged at "Happy Holidays." Maybe we could all learn to lighten up a bit. In a world where people commonly flip strangers the bird and exist in apathetic detachment from their fellow man, I think it's nice to hear a good will greeting. Sometimes (and I am not pointing at anyone here, mind you) I think people can be a little too stuck on their own hang-ups, and before getting offended should take a moment to realize, "This stranger just said something kind to me."
There will always be people who try to push their religion (or lack thereof) and morals (or lack thereof) on others. Those aren't the people I'm talking about. Telling someone you're sorry their loved one is Jewish? That's bad manners. However, chances are, that man or woman behind the checkout counter, or passing you in the street, isn't one of those people. They're just being friendly.
Just my two cents.
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