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Postby Jennet on Fri Apr 20, 2001 10:34 am

So Joe is not, in fact, happy with Ceilidh, and she doesn't know.<P>Please correct me if I'm wrong, because the answer will be a determining factor in my decision to keep reading this comic.<P>*sigh* It's bad enough having it happen to you in real life. Watching the same thing happen on a comic strip is something I don't need right now.<P>------------------
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Postby Jen Aside on Sat Apr 21, 2001 2:08 am

*points also to the Sens' win* <IMG SRC="http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/kao/msroom/m-oi.gif">
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Postby Tangent on Sat Apr 21, 2001 6:50 am

Ever notice Joe always has a disappointed/sarcastic look on his face? Have we ever seen Joe actually SMILE and be HAPPY?<P>Heh. Makes me wonder if the boy ever got laid (assuming it wasn't a horrible first time like mine was <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/rolleyes.gif"> ), where would all that accumulated cynicism and sarcasm go? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/biggrin.gif"><P>------------------
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Postby davey3000 on Sat Apr 21, 2001 7:26 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tangent:
<B>Heh. Makes me wonder if the boy ever got laid (assuming it wasn't a horrible first time like mine was <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/rolleyes.gif"> ), where would all that accumulated cynicism and sarcasm go? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/biggrin.gif">
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>It just increases... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/smile.gif"><P>I think Joe is just sounding unhappy because he's talking about Phoebe, whom he still holds a major grudge against. IMHO, he's acting very nastily towards her - I wonder if he was the one that actually started the lesbian rumour...<P>---
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Postby MizunoL on Sat Apr 21, 2001 9:34 am

Look! <A HREF="http://www.avalonhigh.com/d/20000922.html" TARGET=_blank>Smiling Joe!</A> Breaks my heart just to think about it. <P>Joe sounds unhappy because he is unhappy, not with Ceilidh but with everything. He's been fairly pissed off about the order of things since Grade 9 and that's stayed with him for the whole comic.<P>[edit]Waugh! Joe is smling throughout the entirety of <A HREF="http://www.avalonhigh.com/d/20000714.html" TARGET=_blank>1:175</A>!<p>[This message has been edited by MizunoL (edited 04-21-2001).]
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Postby Asha on Sat Apr 21, 2001 10:52 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tangent:
<B>Ever notice Joe always has a disappointed/sarcastic look on his face? Have we ever seen Joe actually SMILE and be HAPPY?<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>*points to the snowball fights with Ceilidh*<P>
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Postby Renimar on Sat Apr 21, 2001 11:43 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jennet:
<B>So Joe is not, in fact, happy with Ceilidh, and she doesn't know.<P>Please correct me if I'm wrong, because the answer will be a determining factor in my decision to keep reading this comic.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>If you're referring to Joe's tone in the last cell of the strip, I don't think he's unhappy. My first impression is that he was just being his smarmy, sarcastic self there at the end. His first reply to Ceilidh's question was what gave it away.<P>------------------
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Postby davey3000 on Sun Apr 22, 2001 2:09 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Asha:
<B> *points to the snowball fights with Ceilidh*
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Looks more like a look of fear to me... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/smile.gif"><P> <IMG SRC="http://calccity.virtualave.net/stuff/AvChoc.gif"> <P>---
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Postby BenTGaidin on Sun Apr 22, 2001 9:17 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jennet:
<B>*sigh* It's bad enough having it happen to you in real life. Watching the same thing happen on a comic strip is something I don't need right now.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Ouch. Painful.<P>I have to say that some of the best work that I've seen, in the webcomics that I read, are the things that have mirrored times in my life, for good or for bad. Obviously, of course, it's because of the emotional impact.<P>On the other hand, it's always been removed, temporally, so.... *shrugs* Here's wishing you the best of luck in your life.<P>------------------
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Postby MizunoL on Sun Apr 22, 2001 11:08 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by davey3000:
<IMG SRC="http://calccity.virtualave.net/stuff/AvChoc.gif"> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I'd be pretty scared if someone were cramming <B>brown</B> snow in my mouth too...
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Postby davey3000 on Sun Apr 22, 2001 11:55 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MizunoL:
<B> I'd be pretty scared if someone were cramming brown</B> snow in my mouth too...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Yeah, it's meant to be mud - my contribution to the old Avalon mud wrestling thread... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/smile.gif"><P>---
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Postby vision8 on Mon Apr 23, 2001 7:53 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jennet:
<B>So Joe is not, in fact, happy with Ceilidh, and she doesn't know.<P>Please correct me if I'm wrong, because the answer will be a determining factor in my decision to keep reading this comic.<P>*sigh* It's bad enough having it happen to you in real life. Watching the same thing happen on a comic strip is something I don't need right now.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> I hope bad experiences won't prevent you from reading such a great comic. I've had pretty crappy relationships myself, but the parallels I see in Avalon haven't prevented me from reading the comics. I'm able to relate to the characters better, and generally LIKE the characters better. I want to see how these characters handle situations I myself was in; what they do differently and how the situations turn out for them. I like these guys!
If Joe leaves Ceilidh, I'll be disappointed in him, but I'm sure as heck not going to stop reading the comic. I want to see if and how Ceilidh tries to win him back, if Joe realizes the mistake, or if they go after completely different people.<P> Wow, I guess I learned something in my English classes after all. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/smile.gif"><P>------------------
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Postby Shizumaru on Mon Apr 23, 2001 11:45 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jennet:
<B>So Joe is not, in fact, happy with Ceilidh, and she doesn't know.<P>Please correct me if I'm wrong, because the answer will be a determining factor in my decision to keep reading this comic.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Now, now. Joe is apparently not really interested in Ceilidh--at the moment. But there's still plenty of life left in this strip, and things change. They'll change quite a bit, I should imagine.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
*sigh* It's bad enough having it happen to you in real life. Watching the same thing happen on a comic strip is something I don't need right now.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Or, you can realize that it's all good, there's more to life than these things, and be content with what you've got for the time being. Hey, it's how I'm keeping my sanity at the moment. %)<P>------------------
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