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EdSaari wrote:The Conservaion Officers (Don't call them "Game Wardens") broke out the fist aid kit and dressed the wound. He recoverd with no problems. That incident was - HAD TO BE - reported as a "Hunting Accident" -- affecting the statistics. It had NOTHING to do with safe hunting or safe firearms handling - only safe door closing practices.
EdSaari wrote:Thanks for the link, Luchog. It is good to see that they support their information with references to their sources. I only wish they were a little "calmer" and less theatrical in their presentation.
One has to be extremely careful with statistics. In a previous life I was a Quality Control Engineer and one of the few (!?!) extensively involved with statistics.
luchog wrote:... two-thirds of all firearm-caused deaths are from criminals killing other criminals...
EdSaari wrote:I'm wondering about that "Suicides involving the use of firearms are the second leading cause of death in California."
luchog wrote:... two-thirds of all firearm-caused deaths are from criminals killing other criminals...
Myth: Handguns are 43 time more likely to kill a family member than a criminal.
Fast: Of the 43 deaths reported in this flawed study, 37 (86%) were suicides.
Myth: 13 children are killed each day by guns.
Fact: These numbers include suicides.
Myth: More than 1,300 children commit suicide with guns.
Fact: This statistic includes "children" ages 18-19.
EdSaari wrote:I know of one death .. this is especially hard for me to talk about, where a terminally ill cancer patient could not bear the pain - and his life degraded to either being awake in agony or being knocked out completely by drugs... there was nothing else - NO hope. He took his life with a firearm. Was that really to be considered as a suicide?
EdSaari wrote:
On other thought - Japan has a *very low* rate of "firearm suicides". They have very few firearms, period. What is their overall suicide rate?
azalea2 wrote:luchog wrote:... two-thirds of all firearm-caused deaths are from criminals killing other criminals...
Ah, that came from the FBI Uniform Crime Statistics page, which does not include suicides. That explains the disparity.
EdSaari wrote:This is intersting. "DinkyInky" from Wapsi Square suggests that Military Personnel so trained, and those who partake in spicy foods can become "immune" or "desensitized" to Mace or CS, to the point where it it no longer affects them.
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