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Postby Talauna on Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:14 pm

Ok, i will update it when i get home tonight! ;-p

Its kinda hard to update this and make sure it looks correclty here at work...

Well maybe ill toss a few things into it tonight before i get home...

Btw we are close to Version 2.0!
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Postby Talauna on Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:08 am

OK! Version 2.0 of the Bunny Leveling is up!

Again as usual, any questions or opinons feel free to post them

i did change some of the format a bit, and im planning on splitting the Created exp a bit...

But untill then keep giveing me idea's!
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Postby AlmostReadytoFly on Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:34 pm

Would you say Mornington Crescent counts as a created game for XP? It's open to anyone, but only myself and peragrin seem to be playing it. How much attention needs to be paid to a new thread before it counts for anything?
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Postby Talauna on Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:39 pm

At this time its more how populer the thread is, so if you have three people posting, but it had 100 pages because its been the same three people, then you get the same points for a thread created last month with 20 people and 100 pages
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Postby AlmostReadytoFly on Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:49 pm

But the point I'm trying to make is that the first criterion is "create game". Maybe there should be some minimum level of interest before it counts? Say getting onto 2 pages, or 5? Obviously fewer than 40 since that makes it a "popular game".
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Postby Talauna on Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:53 pm

I will gave to consdier that, something eles i can add to this ;-)
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Postby Unforgiven on Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:01 am

Unforgiven wrote:So I'm trying to work out my XP... 10 points for owning the book, 50 for having 100 posts, 400 for the music video from today's comic, that's pretty easy.

Right! So with the additions in v2.0 I can add:
shirt: 10 points
website: 50 points
- translator on the website: 10 points
- character statistics on the website: 10 points

Bringing my total to 540 points. Not too shabby.

Anyway, some further comments. I think the concept of "each page on the EGS related web site" is too vague. For instance, the translator uses more than one page: the web version page, the download page for the client version, the page to translate another webpage, and the header for the translated webpages. If I literally count each page like that, XP would stack up really quick. Even worse with the character statistics: each character has its own page to list the comics they were in, which would be worth 930 points...
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Postby Q99 on Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:15 am

Might I recommend: +5 points if you've written out a list/breakdown of where you get all your points from (only once, not once for each time you update your list or anything).

Half the fun of the levels is seeing the fun EGS stuff people have done, especially for the people who have a ton of points! (Berk, I'm looking at you! Squato too. You're the only other guys over level 10 I think).
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Postby Talauna on Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:17 pm

ok, updated to Version 2.1!

btw: did we run out of idea's? almost finished here?

Also: I have been expermenting how the Game Exp works, i have changed it almost every update...

Any suggestions?

im trying to make it fair, but not overpowering...
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Postby Uite on Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:48 am

Like I said before, I don't think you should get xp for the games, as they're not really EGS-related. Same goes for the RP's, though I'm not as opposed to that.

Also, it could be nice to divide the fanfic xp into different categories, from short story to multi-chaptered epic. All with differing amounts of xp of course.
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Postby Q99 on Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:12 pm

Ok, between several more fanarts (not all of which have been posted), BP from two T-shirts, and no longer short-changing myself in some areas like postcount (since I was afraid I'd blow everyone else away earlier ^_^), I have enough bunny points for...


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Postby Sqauto on Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:55 am

What about the Machinima and Mod community. As a few people have designed EGS things based on games.

Oh and Q, me look up all of my buuny points.

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Postby Uite on Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:16 am

I've changed some of the banners according to suggestions. Everyone who uses them from my PhotoBucket account (which includes the front page of this thread) should be fine. However, some people have downloaded them to their personal webspace, and linked from there. If you're one of them, check to see if your banner has changed.

The updated banners are for levels 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 18 and 19.
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Postby Talauna on Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:02 pm

I understand what you mean Uite, they are not directly EGS related, well most are not, we have a few very creative ones lately ;-P

I kinda Cut down the ammount of EXP you can get from gameing, just because i know it can be abused...

As for games, thats something else i can add to the list, and mods and the like i wouldnt have a problem add this to the list
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Postby anti-paragon on Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:10 pm

Heh, there goes a heck of a lot of exp for me. Oh well, I'm not in this for it to be a contest. Frankly, I agreed that the gaming exp was a little high, so I'm glad it could be balanced out, so don't let people try to say its unfair. With me being one of the highest 'see-saw'ers, I think I have a little weight behind me when I say keep the exp low.
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Postby Unforgiven on Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:29 pm

Uite wrote:I've changed some of the banners according to suggestions. Everyone who uses them from my PhotoBucket account (which includes the front page of this thread) should be fine. However, some people have downloaded them to their personal webspace, and linked from there. If you're one of them, check to see if your banner has changed.

The updated banners are for levels 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 18 and 19.

Well, damnit. I'm going to have to find a way to artificially decrease my XP now, since I rather liked having the Jeremy banner. I'm a huge cat person you know. ;)

On that note, why is there no Brownie banner? :)
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Postby Uite on Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:34 pm

The new system for game xp confuses me. Does it mean that for eveery completed page a game has, everyone who posted in it will get full xp from it? Because if that's true, the word association alone would make someone level 4.

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Postby Talauna on Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:23 pm

I have you IM, and i would love to see it...

But here at work, with this "websense" im not able to see images from any "image Hosting" sites... soo the icon comes up as a little white dot...

ill update it when i get home tonight, im sure it looks great tho...

wait... i may be able to see it if i show that as my avy, which means the fourms host it, not the image hosting site... hmm...

EDIT: Yes it did work, Thank you! i looks wonderful!

as for the game leveling on how its set up now..

For the first 5 cumulative pages for any Game you are involved in: 5 Exp

For each set of 5 cumulative pages for any game you are involved in: 1 Exp


What that means...

For me, i post in "Last post wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" "carrot..?" "Genie Training"...

ill just take three to show you...

Now the last post wins has 286, but you can only have a full page so...

285

Same with Carrot...

713

and genie training..

187

thats a total of 1187 pages

now devide that by 5..

1187/5=237 exp

now you'll want to add a extra 4 Exp for the first 5 pages you get 5 exp not 4...

so for just over 1k pages you only get 237 exp...

Now i did have it at 10 pages per 1 exp, but tha seemed a bit too much
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Postby anti-paragon on Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:25 pm

Whoa whoa, you get exp for every page the thread has?
I thought you ment every page you've participated in.
Umm, you do realize this is going to give me a rediciously high score, right?

Heh, and I thought I had lost exp from that. Wow, this is going to be huge.
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Postby Uite on Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:31 pm

Ah, yes, I missed the part where it said to count per five pages.

A few things still confuse me.

For which pages do you get 5 points and for which 1? Because the way it is stated now, you get 1 xp per five pages, and 5 xp extra for the first five pages, which would then actually be worth 6 xp. Or does it mean you get 5 xp for the first set, and 1 xp for all sets after that?

Also, do you count total pages for all game threads, or do you count the pages per thread? This also applies to the exp points question above.


Examples: (using the numbers you've given, and divisions rounded down before addition of course)

Method 1: (1 xp per page, +5 bonus xp, counted for all threads)
(285+713+187):5+5=242 total

Method 2: (1 xp per page, +5 bonus xp, counted per thread)
(285:5+5)+(713:5+5)+(187:5+5)=251 total

Method 3: (5 xp for first set, 1 xp after that, counted for all threads)
((285+713+187)-5):5+5=241 total

Method 4: (5 xp for first set, 1 xp after that, counted per thread)
(280:5+5)+(708:5+5)+(182:5+5)=237 total


I hope this math is clear. Personally I prefer method 4, but from your previous post I gather method 3 is the official way. Anyway, my point is, many different totals are possible within the rules as stated in the official system, and it could use some clarification.

Also, the xp for owning books is ambiguous too. Does owning both books replace the points for having both individual books, or does it add to it? In other words, does owing both books give you 20xp, or does it give 45xp? I'd say drop the condition of having both books from the list, for clarity.

On that note, the books actually cost money, so should be rewarded with more xp in my opinion. Same goes for the shirts, as they are even more expensive. People won't have many of these items, yet they are great items to award xp for. I mean, you get ten times as much xp for creating a coloured picture, as for actually spending money on the first book.

I apologise if any of this sounds harsh, but I feel that these really are problems that could be corrected.
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Postby Talauna on Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:40 pm

I knew this was going to happen sooner to later, thats why i kept changeing it, till someone tossed me a bone on it...

Lets say there are 101 pages on a theard. First you can not count the last page because its not completed yet...

now the first 5 pages you get 5 exp for the first 5 pages. no more no less

Now for every 5 pages after that you get 1 Exp,

(((100-5)/5)+5) thus 24 exp for 100 pages

Now if you started to post on a new thread lets say this one had 250 pages, You do not get the 5 exp, is already used on the first one

(250/5) would be 50 Exp, giveing you a total of 74 Exp.

This can also be showen as ((((100+250)-5)/5)+5)

Now, for the rounding... go the normal, 5 and up round up, 4 and down round down...

Now im consdiering where you have to be active in at least 10 pages to get exp for the full thread, and you have to be active in a least the last 50 pages or you lose the exp for that, and you have to regan the 10 pages to the exp again...

As for the books, You gave 10 Exp for the first, 15 Exp for the second, and a bonus for owning both, and I do agree these are a bit low, i should update them to a high exp bonus then 10 and 15...

And please, i would rather people talk to me about these problems then be left in the dark...
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Postby Uite on Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:08 pm

Well, try to keep the rules simple and clear. Remove all special cases and such. Personally, I think the rules for Role Playing points are very well done in that respect. Do the same with Game Exp. I mean, if people can check Carrot for RP xp, they can do the same for game xp. 1 point per 5 pages you've posted on of any game you're playing. Or something like that.
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Postby Talauna on Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:26 pm

wha? you mean i can actully make it simple? hehehe

i was having fun confuseing people ;-P


Truthfully that is how i had i set up from the start, but i felt as if that gave too much exp... yes i know, i have a really bad fuzzy logic...

ill have to update it later tonight
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Postby anti-paragon on Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:10 pm

Inspired by the post below, I've decided to post mine, while being post light. But not post dry, post dry is gross.

First newbie Glomps (21) * 25 = 525
Random glomps (10) *5 = 50
Newbie kits ((23) * 50) + ((23) * 10) = 1150 + 230 = 1380 (I add a new item to every kit. Item varies.)
Newbie glomps (12) * 10 = 120
Posts: 2521 = (25 - 2)* 5 + 75(first 200) = 190
Ninjas: (24) * 5 = 120
First reply on a Darkshive Story thread: 1 * 5 = 5

Subtotal = 2390

RP
Number of RP pages participated in = (32) * 5 = 160

Subtotal = 160

Exp breakdown bonus: +25 Exp.
Patrol bunny bonus: +50 Exp.
Total = 2625

If its not considered a game, tell me and I'll remove it from the list.
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Postby Illjwamh on Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:25 pm

Unforgiven wrote:I still don't know if/how I should count the translator or the character statistics page. :(


You should get a hell of a lot for that, since a lot of work went into it. Hell, I should get at least a little bit for the small contribution I made.

I get a much bigger score now, though since I can't remember how many times I posted after Dan in the story threads, I'll just go with a conservative estimate of 5. I'm positive it's more than that, but I don't want to overestimate and give myself too much.

As for how many times I've accurately predicted the comic, I have absolutely no freaking idea. I've lost count. And what if you predicted a future event that wasn't necessarily in the next comic or story? And by "next story," what do you mean? Like what it was going to be about? Because predicting "Flipping Cardboard" after "Sister" would be pretty much impossible, etc.


First 100 posts: 50
Next 100: 25
Next 500: 25
Started Story Thread: (28 times): 420
Avatars Made: (1): 15
Invitees: (4): 60
Own Book 1: 10
Preorder Book: 5
First to Post After Dan: (5): 25
Predicting Next Comic: (Let's say 20): 300
Posting My Points: 25

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