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Postby azrael_2001 on Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:54 pm

Tricia wrote:
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Tricia wrote:no, he's *not* a shape shifter.

He is a human. A male human. Being himself is who he needs to be.
Of all the things about Tedd to defend, the very easiest is shape shifting! He might still be ahead of Grace in total forms tested. Only by insisting on
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Postby Haylo on Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:09 pm

Perhaps a further suggestion, totally truthful but edging well over the line into grandstanding: Show up as a male half-squirrel, near but not exact match to Grace, then when Grace transforms to human use the belt to change, without hiding the artificial nature of the belt. He has improved the belt since it was last used, and in any case Grace and Transforming are most of what he cares about in the world; he should be able to endure the crude transformation.
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Postby Nasrudith on Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:29 pm

For sake of discussion lets expand from parents to family.
First lets start off with Dr. Sciuridae. Judging by his characterization so far this shouldn't be a problem as long as Grace is happy about Tedd. Thus there really shouldn't be a problem unless Tedd really does something to really piss him off.

Hedge of all her brothers seems the most likely to disapprove. Although he could have just been curious. I wouldn't put it past Vladia to be protective as well. Guineas is a bit of a speechless running gag so his opinion is probably unknown.

The second group of parents that is at this point entirely hypothetical would be the family of Mr. Guyur. They may or may not even be alive at this point. Depending on their opinions on seyunolu as equals or not they may not even accept Grace in the first case and thus not give a crap over who she dates. Now if Mr. Guyur's family does care but are strongly religious in the unnamed uryuom religion they may hate Tedd for the sheer reason that he makes a hobby out of improving and using a cosmetic modification device that uses object oriented programming. We really don't know much about uryuom culture, what little we see is from American uryuoms so there may not be a problem at all. After all parrents does not necessarily mean two people to them.
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Postby Haylo on Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:37 pm

azrael_2001 wrote:<snip>most people who have seen her in the street will have assumed that she is actually human, if they ever actually thought about it at all. <snip>
That brings up a real difference in how I interpret things
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Postby Loztein on Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:54 pm

Hmm, the Belt point you made their, especially if it were over his regular apparel that'd be a good way of doing that, as long as he gives off a quick or detailed (Depending on the rest of Grace's Family's interest) explanation afterwards, though Perhaps they should both come as Homosapiens and then turn into Squirrel-People?

As for my definition of "Human" I've never considered it Homosapien, no matter how many people make the connection. I've always beleived and always will continue to beleive that "Human" is an earned title of which Man, Beast, Demon, Machine, and all else can earn. Or LOSE.
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Postby Nocturn on Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:34 pm

I dreamed about this train last night. It was a miracle train that brought me joy.
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Postby Tuitsuro on Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:55 pm

Tricia wrote:He is a human. A male human. Being himself is who he needs to be.


Honestly, if your daughter brought home someone like Tedd, would you want her dating him?

Nocturn wrote:I dreamed about this train last night. It was a miracle train that brought me joy.


So wait... dreaming of a large phallitic object bringing you joy. Absolutely nothing Freudian there!
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Postby Illusionist on Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:52 am

[quote="Tricia"][quote]My first suggestion was going to be Male half-squirrel, same size as Grace, a variant in a slightly lighter brown than Grace
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Postby Cheez on Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:00 am

NevrMore wrote:Anyone remember the movie "Stand By Me"? It was about those four kids who go looking for the body of a guy hit by a train.


Yeah, I remember that. My sister had it on video.
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Postby Nocturn on Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:16 am

Tuitsuro wrote:
Nocturn wrote:I dreamed about this train last night. It was a miracle train that brought me joy.


So wait... dreaming of a large phallitic object bringing you joy. Absolutely nothing Freudian there!


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Postby Amon Star on Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:37 am

Tuitsuro wrote:
Tricia wrote:He is a human. A male human. Being himself is who he needs to be.
Honestly, if your daughter brought home someone like Tedd, would you want her dating him? *Snip*
Yes.
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Postby Nocturn on Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:46 am

Amon Star wrote:
Tuitsuro wrote:
Tricia wrote:He is a human. A male human. Being himself is who he needs to be.
Honestly, if your daughter brought home someone like Tedd, would you want her dating him? *Snip*
Yes.


Tuitsuro, are you rferring to Tedd in his normal form, or some gender-switched furry form? 'cause in one case my answer is "no", and in the other my answer is "hell no."
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Postby Mewtarthio on Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:13 am

Tricia wrote:He is a human. A male human. Being himself is who he needs to be.


Well, "himself" is a male human being with an unhealthy fixation on transforming himself. In fact, it would be lying if he remained the same species and/or gender throughout the entire meeting. Hey, wouldn't you hate it if your daughter brought home a man and you didn't learn until later that he enjoys transforming himself into all manner of Thing Which Nature Never Intended to Exist?
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Postby Kalga on Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:50 am

I'd love it, because then I could scare him away.... that's one of my life goals.... though with my luck, they'd turn out to be a lesbian......
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Postby Haylo on Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:43 am

Mewtarthio wrote:
Tricia wrote:He is a human. A male human. Being himself is who he needs to be.


Well, "himself" is a male human being with an unhealthy fixation on transforming himself. In fact, it would be lying if he remained the same species and/or gender throughout the entire meeting. Hey, wouldn't you hate it if your daughter brought home a man and you didn't learn until later that he enjoys transforming himself into all manner of Thing Which Nature Never Intended to Exist?
Almost as bad, what if I chased him off and only when it was too late found out he did, after all, have the qualities that my daughter really needed (in a case where people like that are none too common)? Suppose I had a daughter with the mutation (50% odds, since it's probably an autosomal dominant) and she brought home an amateur body builder that enjoyed being strong and yet liked the fact that she was still stronger than he was
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Postby Kalga on Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:48 am

Nocturn wrote:
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Tuitsuro wrote:
Tricia wrote:He is a human. A male human. Being himself is who he needs to be.
Honestly, if your daughter brought home someone like Tedd, would you want her dating him? *Snip*
Yes.


Tuitsuro, are you rferring to Tedd in his normal form, or some gender-switched furry form? 'cause in one case my answer is "no", and in the other my answer is "hell no."


I wouldn't be surprised if a member of my family brought home a gender-switched furry......
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Postby Loztein on Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:46 am

Loztein wrote:Hmm, the Belt point you made their, especially if it were over his regular apparel that'd be a good way of doing that, as long as he gives off a quick or detailed (Depending on the rest of Grace's Family's interest) explanation afterwards, though Perhaps they should both come as Homosapiens and then turn into Squirrel-People?


I'll stick by btoh Grace & Tedd arrive as Homosapiens then Grace Shapeshifts, he may very blatantly wear the belt there/bring the TFG, and if anyone asks/if the proper moment arrived use it to TF as well and explain it and himself, in intricate detail if someone seems interested, and of course emphasize on how he can't shapeshift naturally but relies upon said devices.

As for bringing a Gender switched (or regular for that matter) Furry home, heck I'm the most likely to in my household.

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Postby Thog Bad on Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:35 pm

If anything I don't think Grace's brothers and sister will really mind Tedd that much. If anything, they'll probably be happy that she's getting something of a normal life.

Personally, I think that as long as he doesn't try to pass himself off as a natural shapeshifter, he should use the TFG. If he doesn't, he's not being as real as he would be if he were human the whole time. His obsession with transformations is part of who he is. He should first go in his normal form, and maybe transform after he meets them. I don't think it would bother them. They'd probably feel more normal then.

Loztein wrote:On the subject of trains, Third Rails, does anybody ever notice them?


Well, Adam Savage of the Mythbusters has stated one of it's dangers:
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Postby Tricia on Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:01 pm

Nocturn wrote:
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Tuitsuro wrote:
Tricia wrote:He is a human. A male human. Being himself is who he needs to be.
Honestly, if your daughter brought home someone like Tedd, would you want her dating him? *Snip*
Yes.


Tuitsuro, are you rferring to Tedd in his normal form, or some gender-switched furry form? 'cause in one case my answer is "no", and in the other my answer is "hell no."
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The real question is...if he showed up as a half-squirrel...what conclusion could they draw *besides* him being a natural shapeshifter?
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Postby azrael_2001 on Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:32 pm

Tricia wrote:The real question is...if he showed up as a half-squirrel...what conclusion could they draw *besides* him being a natural shapeshifter?
Frankly, they'd be stupid to draw any sort of conclusion from so little evidence, especially since Grace probably indicated that her boyfriend was human when they talked on the videophone.
Also, I fully expect that they would have come across CMDs, or information about them, during their psychological evaluation, especially since we know that their education was supervised by Tedd's Dad's department and involved at least some direct contact with pure Uryuoms. So they would at least be aware that there were other ways to change form than to be born with the ability. In fact, Vladia's existence alone should be plenty of evidence of that.

Anyway, the desired effect could just as easily be achieved by Tedd kissing Grace in half-squirrel form in front of them. Or better, when they appear to think themselves unobserved.
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Postby NevrMore on Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:36 pm

Nocturn wrote:
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Nocturn wrote:I dreamed about this train last night. It was a miracle train that brought me joy.


So wait... dreaming of a large phallitic object bringing you joy. Absolutely nothing Freudian there!


I don't need a psychologist to know I'm sexually unfulfilled.

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Postby Michael Brazier on Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:00 am

:o :oops:

Good grief, you two, get a room. :-|
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Postby Illusionist on Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:56 am

You think that's bad, go to the DD forums.
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Postby Kalga on Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:31 am

No.... the Sore Thumbs forum is the worse.... they actully have threads for the sole purpose of posting Hentai.....
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Postby Nocturn on Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:44 am

No, Kalga, Illusionist means that Nevvy and I are far more flirtatious with each other on the DD board.
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