[Story - Jan 22, 2008]

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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby DarkShive on Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:24 pm

Tuitsuro wrote:So do we start shipping them now or wait until we confirm Carol is at least a reappearing character? They already have the perfect ship name;

"Carolina". :smug:

Carol will definitely reappear. Now that I have an established news reporter character, I plot to use her.

One thing I wanted to establish here is that she has a certain loyalty to Moperville and believes the events there deserve to be taken seriously and reported. This also neatly explains why it's always the same reporter showing up. She's also not a self-obsessed jerk, so there should be a lack of certain cliches... or, at the very least, there'll be a twist. I like the idea of giving Carol a rival who is more cliche in regard to their goals as a reporter, but there's a ton of other ideas to get to first.
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby Tarvok on Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:42 pm

This argument has me reliving past trauma. There's nothing worse than ending up in a state where you find yourself obsessing over the question, "OMG, where do I look? Where do I look?" expecting rhetorical hammers to fall at any second.
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Postby Darryl on Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:57 pm

Ineluki wrote:zorra
And here's where your entire post lost its credibility, for using such a misogynistic slur.
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby raekuul on Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:09 pm

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Tuitsuro wrote:So do we start shipping them now or wait until we confirm Carol is at least a reappearing character? They already have the perfect ship name;

"Carolina". :smug:

Carol will definitely reappear. Now that I have an established news reporter character, I plot to use her.

One thing I wanted to establish here is that she has a certain loyalty to Moperville and believes the events there deserve to be taken seriously and reported. This also neatly explains why it's always the same reporter showing up. She's also not a self-obsessed jerk, so there should be a lack of certain cliches... or, at the very least, there'll be a twist. I like the idea of giving Carol a rival who is more cliche in regard to their goals as a reporter, but there's a ton of other ideas to get to first.


So Carol isn't going to be the type of reporter that would, say, risk a permanent transgendering to herself and people around her for the sake of exposing the truth?
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby Chaos Priest on Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:47 pm

Um, could we please not bring up the Wotch's latest plot twist? I think we have enough of our own bickering without getting into ones concerning other webcomic characters.
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby benkenobi5 on Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:59 pm

Ivan's situation is pure cheesecake. it almost made me take the comic off my bookmarks list.
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby Unforgiven on Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:33 pm

I don't know, considering that 99% of the cast of the Wotch seems to enjoy getting transgendered, it's interesting to see someone who doesn't like it. Of course, if he grows to accept it in time (which I'm sorta expecting, to be honest) it's a whole different story.
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby Tricia on Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:58 pm

It's only a matter of time before he's settled in and is happy being a girl.

I may not like *everything* about EGS regarding transformations...but it at least doesn't have the "everyone loves being a girl" to it, which is a major redeeming point.
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby benkenobi5 on Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:02 pm

Tricia wrote:It's only a matter of time before he's settled in and is happy being a girl.

I may not like *everything* about EGS regarding transformations...but it at least doesn't have the "everyone loves being a girl" to it, which is a major redeeming point.

yea, the only one is Tedd.. and the real girls, of course.
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby Circe on Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:10 pm

Chaos Priest wrote:Um, could we please not bring up the Wotch's latest plot twist? I think we have enough of our own bickering without getting into ones concerning other webcomic characters.


Well, you did try. A for effort....
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby Tricia on Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:46 pm

It's like posting a sign that says "Don't push this button". That pretty much guarantees that someone's gonna push it.
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby benkenobi5 on Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:57 pm

DON'T TOUCH IT!!! IT'S THE HISTORY ERASER BUTTON, YOU FOOL!!!!!!!!!
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby Tuitsuro on Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:41 pm

benkenobi5 wrote:DON'T TOUCH IT!!! IT'S THE HISTORY ERASER BUTTON, YOU FOOL!!!!!!!!!


So hey, how about that wheel, eh? Pretty awesome that we can move heavy rocks around with round rocks. And fire? Central heating, that's what that is. Cavemankind is certainly at the pinnacle of civilization now!
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby The Old Hack on Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:16 am

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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby Tuitsuro on Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:09 am

I'll be damned if the Carthaginians discover philosophy before me!!
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby Stardrake_ on Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:39 am

Personally, I'm not sure about Susan's expression in the final panel. It's a situation where I'd expect her to be rolling her eyes or something, not the... poker-face-ish expression she has. Of course, that might be the point.

blort wrote:I guess I'm the only one who thought that actually didn't come off well for Susan (and Catalina)? It makes it seem like they hadn't really thought about their actual reasons for hating the new dresscode beyond "Well, it's sexist because... uh... because... it's sexist!"
That's something that has me worried as well. That said, they weren't exactly planning for a press conference, but Susan has presented her case better in the past.

Tarvok wrote:Only there's no resemblance between Carol and Lois Lane of any kind. There isn't much between Carol and April O'Neal, either, but they're closer. At the very least, I imagine the hair color is similar. (Insert pedantry about April not having been a news reporter in the original comic books here.)
Also, humanoid turtles would seem to fit the setting better.

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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby The Old Hack on Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:02 am

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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby Illusionist on Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:12 am

Tricia wrote:
Also, when someone talks about something on their person, its customary to look. It would be rude to ignore them, and rude to comment on something without looking.
If a girl asked you how her shirt looked, would you look at it briefly, and then look at her with your comment? Or would you stare at her boobs the entire time you're talking to her?

I certainly hope, for your sake, that it's the former.

I'm amazed at the contention over a throwaway gag. It's a simple attraction/shallowness joke. It would be exactly the same if Tedd said it.
And if Tedd said it, I would still be saying that Dan could have done a lot better.


Point the first: Catalina's fairly obviously distracted by how short that skirt is.

Point the second: If it were Tedd saying it, would you be complaining about "lolheterosexuality"? Is Dan just not allowed to make jokes that even mention sexuality, or what?

Oh, and Darryl? Calling a woman bitch (or some local equivalent) is not misogynist. By that logic, any woman who calls a man "bastard" is misandrist. By that logic, something like 80% of humanity acts in a sexist way on a regular basis.
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby benkenobi5 on Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:44 am

Illusionist wrote:Oh, and Darryl? Calling a woman bitch (or some local equivalent) is not misogynist. By that logic, any woman who calls a man "bastard" is misandrist. By that logic, something like 80% of humanity acts in a sexist way on a regular basis.

it doesn't directly translate "bitch". I think it's sort of a combination of the B word, and calling the person a slut. so, yea, it's a bit misogynist.
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby Illusionist on Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:52 am

I'm still not seeing how it's misogynist, unless all gender-specific insults are sexist.
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby Darryl on Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:59 am

Illusionist wrote:I'm still not seeing how it's misogynist, unless all gender-specific insults are sexist.
Because "slut" itself is, due to the fact that it implies promiscuity in women, which actually does not have a similar insult aimed at men. Hell, half the time a promiscuous man is called a "playa", and it's considered a good thing. Ergo "slut" is a rather misogynistic insult.
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby Illusionist on Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:01 am

I've heard guys get called slut or whore before.

To be fair, some of it was in a joking "You left another girl?" way, but I have heard it used as a serious insult.
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby nitpicking on Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:22 am

Stardrake_ wrote:
blort wrote:I guess I'm the only one who thought that actually didn't come off well for Susan (and Catalina)? It makes it seem like they hadn't really thought about their actual reasons for hating the new dresscode beyond "Well, it's sexist because... uh... because... it's sexist!"
That's something that has me worried as well. That said, they weren't exactly planning for a press conference, but Susan has presented her case better in the past.

I think it's totally reasonable. She didn't have time to plan a speech (as Tedd did), and we've seen that when she gets excited she becomes somewhat less comprehensible (as when she was explaining her urgent texting). Also, she's a teenager. Confronted by a minor celebrity and knowing that this event is very important, it isn't that shocking that she might experience 5 seconds of brain-lock.
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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby Tricia on Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:52 am

I find it very interesting that Illy will throw a hissy fit if someone says "s***", but he's just fine with this.

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Re: [Story - Jan 22, 2008]

Postby Illusionist on Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:00 pm

Fine with what? Are all swear words equal now or something?
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