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[S.T.O.R.Y. 5/10/02] The trauma of form-lock

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:03 pm
by Chaos Priest
http://www.egscomics.com/d/20020510.html

Wow, Grace seems pretty desperate in the 3rd panel. I wonder if being trapped in a body you don't recognize as your own would be worse or better for a shapeshifter than a normal person? Either way it would absolutely suck, but I wonder if the loss of the ability to change would feel like losing a part of themselves, or if having taken on other forms before would make it easier on them. Still, it looks like Grace is not happy with the prospect. And to think she was planning on doing it to her brothers, and with forms that would be relatively weak at that...

Anyway, I wonder if this situation seems a bit familiar to Tedd. Only, ya know, with a little bit more fur and a lot less meowing.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 5/10/02] The trauma of form-lock

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:10 pm
by tmp
I suspect it's a lot like suddenly losing use of your hand, where everything is still there, but no matter how hard you will it, your fingers just don't respond. When it goes on long enough, you could get this creeping worry that even if you do technically get use back, you'll have forgotten how.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 5/10/02] The trauma of form-lock

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:29 am
by SleepyOrigami
tmp wrote:I suspect it's a lot like suddenly losing use of your hand, where everything is still there, but no matter how hard you will it, your fingers just don't respond. When it goes on long enough, you could get this creeping worry that even if you do technically get use back, you'll have forgotten how.

:o This hits too close to home for me. I experience episodes of sleep paralysis, and this "creeping worry" as you call it can quickly turns into a consuming terror that can last for days. I feel that it is the very rapid realization that one is utterly powerless to do just about anything to "correct" their predicament coupled with the fear of its potential permanence.

There seems to be no time for her to process what has happened. So I can see why Grace is more than a little worried as the reality starts to sink into her mind. Full panic is most likely staved off temporarily here by the hope the TFG represents. I feel her idea to capture her brothers is far crueler than she might have expected. Well it may be cruel, but it is no Fibrodysplasia ossificans progressiva. Now that is a condition that just seems way too cruel to be real.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 5/10/02] The trauma of form-lock

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:54 am
by Nightranger
Tedd's response to this situation has always struck me as odd. It seems he is either being unneccessarily cruel or unneccessarily melodramatic, neither of which are things I could picture Tedd doing, especially in light of the situation at hand.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 5/10/02] The trauma of form-lock

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:56 pm
by Melvar
Nightranger wrote:Tedd's response to this situation has always struck me as odd. It seems he is either being unneccessarily cruel or unneccessarily melodramatic, neither of which are things I could picture Tedd doing, especially in light of the situation at hand.
I think it's because he knows more than he lets on. After all, he knows the effects on other shapeshifters (Will and Gill).

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 5/10/02] The trauma of form-lock

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:56 pm
by ChronosCat
== Spring, 2006 ==

Chronos: Prior to the explanation final panel, this strip is creepy. Heck, Tedd looks creepy in the final panel - this entire strip is creepy!

== Dec 26, 2008 - 10:40 PM ==

Crystal: *hums quietly to herself* Hmm, hmm, hmm... Point-less!

*Crystal from 10:50 PM suddenly appears.*

10:50 Crystal: Actually, it isn't entirely pointless. I was looking over the next strip again, and it goes into how Grace activates her transformations.

10:40 Crystal: Oh. That's still not much of a point, though.

10:50 Crystal: Well, no, but its better than no point at all. *shrugs* Well, that's all I wanted to say, so I'll be going. *vanishes*

== Dec 26, 2008 - 10:50 PM ==

*Crystal appears, and sees another version of herself still in the room.*

Newly-arrived-Crystal: Hey, what are you still doing here?! You have to go let our past self know the "try harder" sidetrack isn't totally pointless!

Still-there-Crystal: Oh, right. *Vanishes*

== Dec 26, 2008 - 10:55 PM ==

*Crystal finishes typing up this sequence of events, and finally posts it.*

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 5/10/02] The trauma of form-lock

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:09 pm
by nitpicking
SleepyOrigami wrote: :o This hits too close to home for me. I experience episodes of sleep paralysis, and this "creeping worry" as you call it can quickly turns into a consuming terror that can last for days. I feel that it is the very rapid realization that one is utterly powerless to do just about anything to "correct" their predicament coupled with the fear of its potential permanence.

I've only experienced sleep paralysis a couple of times, but it was scary before I knew what it was. Especially when the first time was only a few weeks after my father's stroke.

The second time, I did know, and I was more fascinated than anything else. Oliver Sacks (a neurologist) has written some fascinating stuff about this and many other topics.

From your nickname: you aren't by any chance narcoleptic? I know a couple of people with narcolepsy.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 5/10/02] The trauma of form-lock

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:18 pm
by Nightranger
Melvar wrote:
Nightranger wrote:Tedd's response to this situation has always struck me as odd. It seems he is either being unneccessarily cruel or unneccessarily melodramatic, neither of which are things I could picture Tedd doing, especially in light of the situation at hand.
I think it's because he knows more than he lets on. After all, he knows the effects on other shapeshifters (Will and Gill).

Whether he just had a theory or if he knew that she'd be able to change back doens't matter. He could have simply said something like: "First, why don't you try changing back on your own again, just to be sure." And then go the next comic's conversation. Yet even when Grace starts worrying/panicing, he actually seems to take a harsher tone.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 5/10/02] The trauma of form-lock

PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:54 am
by Haylo
Nightranger wrote:Whether he just had a theory or if he knew that she'd be able to change back doesn’t matter. He could have simply said something like: "First, why don't you try changing back on your own again, just to be sure." And then go the next comic's conversation. Yet even when Grace starts worrying/panicking, he actually seems to take a harsher tone.

I get a mental image of a drill sergeant yelling, “You think those assassins following you are going to just sit there and beg for help? They’re going to try everything they can to shift back, so you are going to try everything you can to shift back. Now put some muscle into it!”

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 5/10/02] The trauma of form-lock

PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:58 am
by Illusionist
How is Tedd being overly cruel/dramatic?

Grace: Request.
Tedd: Refusal to comply with request.
Grace: Demand for explanation of refusal.
Tedd: Explanation of refusal.

Seems OK to me.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 5/10/02] The trauma of form-lock

PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:43 pm
by tmp
SleepyOrigami wrote:
tmp wrote:I suspect it's a lot like suddenly losing use of your hand, where everything is still there, but no matter how hard you will it, your fingers just don't respond. When it goes on long enough, you could get this creeping worry that even if you do technically get use back, you'll have forgotten how.

:o This hits too close to home for me. I experience episodes of sleep paralysis, and this "creeping worry" as you call it can quickly turns into a consuming terror that can last for days. I feel that it is the very rapid realization that one is utterly powerless to do just about anything to "correct" their predicament coupled with the fear of its potential permanence.


Sorry, it's been four months since I've been able to move my fingers in one hand, so I suppose it's settled down to "creeping worry" in my case. When it initially happened though, I had other things to deal with that kept me from doing anything other than notice that I couldn't move various parts. I guess since it was something I had to "worry about later" it didn't hit as hard as it might have. I apologize for dredging it up.

SleepyOrigami wrote:There seems to be no time for her to process what has happened. So I can see why Grace is more than a little worried as the reality starts to sink into her mind. Full panic is most likely staved off temporarily here by the hope the TFG represents.


And then Tedd goes and says something that discourages her hope. At least he got to the explanation before she did panic. When some medication had the side effect of dropping me in a pool of Nightmare Fuel Unleaded and lighting it, I manage to stave off panic by focusing on an apparent way out. Unfortunately, the orderlies didn't knock me out before panic did hit, so I, for one, appreciate seeing Tedd be quick to compensate for his poor choice of words.