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[S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:09 pm
by Chaos Priest
http://www.egscomics.com/d/20020216.html

Lesbians vs. Waffles

This is a difficult matter to look at objectively, but if we are to come to a conclusion of any sort the pros and cons of both wafles and lesbians must be looked at without prejudice.

Waffles
+ can be covered with things such as whipped cream, chocolate syrup, etc.
+ filling
+ fresh ones can be very tasty
+ can come with things like eggs, bacon, hashbrowns, etc. for a more complete meal
*best when hot
- fattening
- frozen ones are not so tasty
- may destroy cities
- may be the subject of really bad movies

Lesbians
+ can be covered with things such as whipped cream, chocolate syrup, etc.
+ fresh ones can be very alluring
+ can combine with various fetish objects for a more specialized appeal
+ may be the subject of good movies
* best when hot
-the only people who can fully enjoy lesbians are bisexual women and other lesbians. The demographic that wants them the most, men, are left out and there's nothing they can really do about it
- all the good points apply equally to non-lesbian women as well
- frozen ones are very disturbing, and may require a police inquiry
- may destroy cities
- more likely to be the subject of really bad movies

I'm believe I'm going to have to give this one to waffles, but if anybody wishes to make to argue the case now's the time to do so.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:20 pm
by kyevan
Chaos Priest wrote:-the only people who can fully enjoy lesbians are bisexual women and other lesbians. The demographic that wants them the most, men, are left out and there's nothing they can really do about it

Are we reading the same comic? This is EGS!

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:29 pm
by Torgamus
kyevan wrote:Are we reading the same comic? This is EGS!


"THIS! IS!! EGS!!!"

* V5-ZAP * *instead of kick*



:shifty:

Aaanyway, why not combine the two? Waffles AND lesbians?

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:19 pm
by Nightranger
This may be a bit out of the blue, but I must say, I think I'd rather like to see bundled-up Tedd drawn in Dan's current style and skill level. Just saying.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:47 pm
by Darekun
Let's see:

  • I don't find any waffles particularly tasty
  • lesbians can also combine with additional lesbians, which is not true of heterosexual women, though it is true of bisexual women
  • enjoying lesbians qualifies as exercise
So I'm gonna have to vote that lesbians are better than waffles. I do admit to being biased, though :D

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:58 pm
by nitpicking
I eat waffles several times a week, whereas


... I'm just going to stop right there.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:33 pm
by Nocturn
Just imagine I did some long angry rant at you so I can move on.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:32 pm
by Turey
Nightranger wrote:This may be a bit out of the blue, but I must say, I think I'd rather like to see bundled-up Tedd drawn in Dan's current style and skill level. Just saying.


If you picked up the print book, one of the bonuses was a redrawn Tedd in coat + nude Grace.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:32 am
by kyevan
Turey wrote:
Nightranger wrote:This may be a bit out of the blue, but I must say, I think I'd rather like to see bundled-up Tedd drawn in Dan's current style and skill level. Just saying.


If you picked up the print book, one of the bonuses was a redrawn Tedd in coat + nude Grace.

That was in the Wowio edition, actually. The only copy I know of is in a place I can't link it without getting banned, sadly.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:39 am
by Ineluki
kyevan wrote:
Turey wrote:
Nightranger wrote:This may be a bit out of the blue, but I must say, I think I'd rather like to see bundled-up Tedd drawn in Dan's current style and skill level. Just saying.


If you picked up the print book, one of the bonuses was a redrawn Tedd in coat + nude Grace.

That was in the Wowio edition, actually. The only copy I know of is in a place I can't link it without getting banned, sadly.


yes, but there is a strip slay of it... still exists linked in the slay thread... just gotta look for the right date ;)

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:18 am
by Chaos Priest
Nightranger wrote:This may be a bit out of the blue, but I must say, I think I'd rather like to see bundled-up Tedd drawn in Dan's current style and skill level. Just saying.

That might be interesting. The coat apparently is enough to override the manliness of Tedd's glasses, so it's likely a fairly girly coat. That or the bulkiness of the coat makes it uncertain as to whether or not Tedd has breasts, and when uncertain about that people tend to assume he does. Of course they wouldn't necessarily be wrong in his case.
Nocturn wrote:*long angry rant inserted*

... :o

Geez Nocturn, keep it PG-13 here, please! Do you kiss your mother with that mouth of yours?!

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:08 am
by Nightranger
kyevan wrote:
Turey wrote:
Nightranger wrote:This may be a bit out of the blue, but I must say, I think I'd rather like to see bundled-up Tedd drawn in Dan's current style and skill level. Just saying.


If you picked up the print book, one of the bonuses was a redrawn Tedd in coat + nude Grace.

That was in the Wowio edition, actually. The only copy I know of is in a place I can't link it without getting banned, sadly.

Gah! How could I forget that? I've even downloaded it.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:07 am
by Illusionist
Lesbians, just because they're more practical than waffles. If you get stuck on a desert island, one waffle will keep you fed for about half a day. If you're stuck on a desert island, one lesbian contains enough nutrition for at least 2/3 days, more if she's fat.

Inb4 eating a lesbian pun.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:12 am
by Man on the Moon
Torgamus wrote:"THIS! IS!! EGS!!!"

* V5-ZAP * *instead of kick*


No, no, no. See, kicking wasn't doing enough to discourage this, so we've had to upgrade.

Image

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:30 am
by kyevan
Illusionist wrote:Lesbians, just because they're more practical than waffles. If you get stuck on a desert island, one waffle will keep you fed for about half a day. If you're stuck on a desert island, one lesbian contains enough nutrition for at least 2/3 days, more if she's fat.

Inb4 eating a lesbian pun.

Eh, the issue's going to be water, really. And I don't think lesbians burn well enough to do the desalination trick where you evaporate the water and then catch the vapor, and let it condense.

WITCHES, on the other hand...

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:58 pm
by Nightranger
kyevan wrote:
Illusionist wrote:Lesbians, just because they're more practical than waffles. If you get stuck on a desert island, one waffle will keep you fed for about half a day. If you're stuck on a desert island, one lesbian contains enough nutrition for at least 2/3 days, more if she's fat.

Inb4 eating a lesbian pun.

Eh, the issue's going to be water, really. And I don't think lesbians burn well enough to do the desalination trick where you evaporate the water and then catch the vapor, and let it condense.

WITCHES, on the other hand...

There's a somewhat obvious solution to this, I think...

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:52 pm
by Man on the Moon
Nightranger wrote:There's a somewhat obvious solution to this, I think...


But where are we gonna get leather pants at this hour?

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:40 pm
by Nightranger
But why would lesbian witches need leather pants?

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:24 am
by Tricia
Hey, here's a radical idea. Let's treat lesbians like they're actual people, not something that exists purely to satisfy your libido.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:11 am
by Illusionist
Uh, what? That's what we're doing. If you're going to take offence at something, make sure it's something that's actually happening.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:51 am
by Man on the Moon
Tricia wrote:Hey, here's a radical idea. Let's treat lesbians like they're actual people, not something that exists purely to satisfy your libido.


But these are theoretical lesbians, not actual people. As products of our own imagination, they do exist by and for our whims alone.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:14 am
by kyevan
Tricia wrote:Hey, here's a radical idea. Let's treat lesbians like they're actual people, not something that exists purely to satisfy your libido.

Mmm, see, there's a difference between being silly and actually objectifying people. I had hoped that would be obvious the moment we started talking about relative nutritional value and flammability:P

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:44 am
by Illusionist
To your left, you can observe Tricia making the traditional jump from "criticism" to "insults". This traditionally occurs shortly after somebody posts an opinion she doesn't like. It has a actually been growing rarer lately, so you're quite lucky (or not) to see it first hand.

Alternatively, feel free to observe her ignorance of the edit button and love of the delete one.

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:49 am
by Nocturn
The issue that I, personally, have with this is that treatment of lesbians as some kind of mystical, fabled being.

I don't think this really counts as reducing lesbians to some sexual object, but it still has the characteristic of making a person seem like, well, something inhuman. Comparing a human to pastries does that thing, where it is hard to not take offense. I fully realise you are just joking here, but try exchanging "lesbian" with "African" or "Jew" and if it still seems just as funny.

You basicly take a group of people and, even if just for the sake of joking, compare it to something inanimate. It's very easy to see this as incredibly insensitive.

Then, of course, once anybody puts "lesbians are hot" on the pro column, or the fact this is almost entirely done by heterosexual men, it also gets hard not to see this as outright sexual objectification. This is a joke that is immensely likely to backfire. I'm "only" bisexual and already it gets hard not to be outright and incredibly offended.


Oh, and Illusionist? Tricia's comment was uncalled for. But you know? She also realised that and deleted her post. All that is left you jumping at her back. All that is left is your insult to her. Frankly, this makes you as bad as what you accuse Tricia of being. There's not even any excuse, as you lovingly imply that even deleting such post is bad for some reason. Difficult not take this as "YEAH WELL SHE DELETED HER POST BUT SHE MUST STILL BE JUDGED AND HUMILIATED!", you know?

Re: [S.T.O.R.Y. 2/16/02] The age old argument

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:17 pm
by Illusionist
I was just pointing out her habit of deleting posts rather than apologising for them, or even just saying "Yeah, I messed up". I was, in short, criticising her. Nothing wrong with a little criticism. Had I called Tricia stupid for deleting her posts, then there would be a problem.