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Funniest Series Ever?

Futurama
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Family Guy
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Postby Psyonide on Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:26 am

EventSpire wrote:I swear, I didn't know she was three...

Yeah, good work with the boring characters point. Change the name of the chars / show, and replace 'wacky situations' with 'situation comedy' or 'drama' etc. and it could be applied to any show ever made.

And crazier? Not a bit.
As you said, Futurama has more depth, but that's where the two shows differ. Family Guy doesn't even pretend to have an underlying storyline or major character interaction and development like Futurama, rather its just straight out comedy. If thats not what you're looking for, then watch Futurama. Simple.
I like Futurama, I also like Family Guy. When I want to watch something that'll make me laugh hard enough that it hurts, Family Guy is the only choice out of the three. When I want to watch something that shares comedy with solid characters, I'll watch Futurama. When I flick the TV on and they're playing one of the 80 daily episodes of the simpsons, I might watch that. Might.
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Postby EventSpire on Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:10 pm

So you're saying all characters in any show are boring?
Watch Dead like Me.
Watch Huff.
Watch Six Feet Under.
Scratch that, watch any show that doesn't suck. That is the kind of TV I like to watch. Family guy is alright. Maybe I have something to prove with all of this cause everyone I know praises the fuck out of it and I gotta be the one who balances it by yelling "IT SUCKS!"
Most of the "random" stuff in Family Guy is pun oriented.
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Postby Psyonide on Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:52 pm

I'm saying that characters can only be so good without situations that work well for them. I don't care how interesting your character is, put them in a small, featureless white room all by themself with nothing to do and it's going to be fucking boring to watch.

Obviously you like to watch 'TV that doesn't suck'. Seeing as people have individual opinions on what does and does not suck, we all like to watch TV that doesn't suck. Unless you're some kind of masochist.

Hating something for the sake of it does not make you cool.

And yes, most of the "random" stuff in Family Guy is reference, puns and satire.

Something vaguely relevant.
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Postby EventSpire on Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:11 pm

You're just comparing polar extremes here. You cannot have a total situation or a total character. That is where smart writing comes into play. That is what makes good shows good. That is what lets characters develop, and not simply be vehicles for funny ideas. I get the feeling that Peter Griffin is just a ball of stuff that people thought was funny.
And now we're getting off topic. I don't know where this is going. I am veering back on. Characters. Simpsons has smarter and better writing. Family Guy reminds me like a collage. Maybe that's why it's so popular with teenagers. It's really, really easy.
This (smart writing, balancing character with situation) is what makes shows like Simpsons good, and shows like Family Guy novelties.
And I never said hating something for the sake of hating made me cool you dumb bastard. I said it to clear the air. It doesn't make my points any less valid and you saying that doesn't mean anything. Neither does this except to tell you that I think it is stupid. Personally, in my opinion, whatever, fuck me.
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Postby FunnyComic Lover on Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:39 pm

EventSpire wrote:whatever, fuck me.


I'll leave hitting on you to spinachdip, or possibly Padriac
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Postby Meteuro on Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:08 pm

Futurama for me.

Sorry to interrupt, you guys go ahead arguing.
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Postby YarnIsland on Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:22 pm

They're debating.
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Postby Meteuro on Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:28 pm

I see. How could I make the mistake to confuse those so obviously different ways of getting a point across.

-end sarcasm-

Actually, that was my bad. I love debating. Apparently I made it to state-level or something without realising it, but then gave up.
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Postby YarnIsland on Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:50 pm

I like when Psy and Event debate, they are great. If you want a really good one, go back to the "Best Video Game to Movie" survey I started. It was pretty good stuff and they both had good points.

Anyways, I was just kidding with the whole 'they're debating' thing, they were doing both, obviously.

I don't know about you but them changing the other's quotes made me laugh my ass off. Better then all three of the shows combined, haha.
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Postby Meteuro on Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:38 pm

If only filming forums wasn't so tedious, then we could have our very own show. Albeit one that is filled with references to other shows that are playing in the same timeslot.
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Postby FunnyComic Lover on Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:56 pm

NOT, if we're planning on playing it at the same time as Neighbours.

Stick it to those bastards.
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Postby Psyonide on Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:17 am

EventSpire wrote:You're just comparing polar extremes here. You cannot have a total situation or a total character. That is where smart writing comes into play. That is what makes good shows good. That is what lets characters develop, and not simply be vehicles for funny ideas. I get the feeling that Peter Griffin is just a ball of stuff that people thought was funny.

...pretty sure you missed my point and that that is just what i was saying...
There wouldn't be any good situations for characters to be in without the good writing, is what I was getting at. The point I was trying to make about Family Guy with that (which you obviously disagree with) is that you can have some pretty transparent characters so long as it's backed up by good writing (ie. situations). I think you're right that there isn't much to the Family Guy cast, I've said as much, but unlike you I think that the writing keeps it all together.

Characters. Simpsons has smarter and better writing. Family Guy reminds me like a collage. Maybe that's why it's so popular with teenagers. It's really, really easy.
This (smart writing, balancing character with situation) is what makes shows like Simpsons good, and shows like Family Guy novelties.

Again, I disagree, you're just getting into intellectual snobbey. FG may have more limited characters, but that doesn't make it a 'novelty'. There's still enough in there for it to work.

And I never said hating something for the sake of hating made me cool you dumb bastard. I said it to clear the air. It doesn't make my points any less valid and you saying that doesn't mean anything. Neither does this except to tell you that I think it is stupid. Personally, in my opinion, whatever, fuck me.


You said: Maybe I have something to prove with all of this cause everyone I know praises the fuck out of it and I gotta be the one who balances it by yelling "IT SUCKS!"
Which reads as "Everyone I know likes it, and for that reason I feel the need to dislike it." If thats not what you were getting at then you should have fucking well been clearer. It's not like that was even ambiguous and I just took the wrong meaning out of it. It was pretty clearly pointing towards "I don't like it for the sake of having a different opinion".
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Postby EventSpire on Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:08 pm

I'm really not trying to get into intellectual snobbery here. I know for a fact that all the teenagers love family guy. All the kids at my school keep saying how random it is. I don't get it. I really hatr the word random (side note: I also hate the word "feel"). Family Guy does a lot of tributes, and that is what makes it such a shallow show for me. They do satire and parody all the time, and Peter Griffin, as I mentioned, is just a ball of stuff. A ball of quotes and old TV references.

I think Simpsons has better writing cause it has been around for so long. It wasn't always that way. Right now Simpsons is sort of a mess but it realizes this. Look how Disco Stu was brought into the series. He was brought in as a gag. But now I see Moe and Homer and BArt and Lisa and even Marge and Flanders and Wiggum as actual characters with personality. Who the fuck is Meg?

I hate Family Guy a lot more because eveyrone loves it so much.
Their absolute praise for it makes me believe that the world is unfair.
This is an unfair world where cheap stuff gets rewarded a trillionfold.
I have to say "I really really hate this" because I believe it is unfair. From a writing perspective, and from the perspective of a human being, I need to say it. Their love for it amplifies my hate. That is it.
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Postby Psyonide on Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:14 pm

See, it's a bit different here. Family Guy was only aired briefly here in Australia before a bunch of usless parents complained about it being too adult for it's timeslot, and for that matter too adult for a cartoon (becuase kids like to watch cartoons, and children are just so easy to influence, and lord knows we can't stop them from watching a TV show), so most people never really saw it. I've only seen as much as I have because a friend of mine downloaded the episodes (and now has the DVDs). Anyway, what I'm leading up to is that I've watched it with a fair few people who though it was stupid. It doesn't have a huge fanbase here. Most people don't even know it, so its not like its a show that everyone loves. Also, the fact that most of the references are based off American culture, many of the jokes go straight over most peoples heads. I know I sure wouldn't get a few of them if it wasn't for a mate who spent some time in the US.
So yeah, I don't have to deal with truckloads of annoying teens endlessly crapping on about it. I see where you're coming from though, HALO was pretty much ruined for me by a guy in my Lit class (back when HALO was new) who would spend 80% of every class talking about it. I would have liked to force feed him the game by the end of it.

I know what you're saying about the characters though, and it's fair enough. I just don't see it as a reason to hate the show. I enjoy the fact that its a show that pretty much goes nowhere, every once in a while I like to watch something that I don't havge to pay attention to, something that I can just enjoy for the gags or visuals. As much as I like well developed characters and carefully crafted stories (I wouldn't read fiction otherwise), I equally enjoy being able to tune out and simply have a laugh. Family Guy provides me an opportunity to do that, so I like it.
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Postby spinachdip on Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:00 pm

FunnyComic Lover wrote:
EventSpire wrote:whatever, fuck me.


I'll leave hitting on you to spinachdip, or possibly Padriac



Just because I offered for everyone to lick me doesnt mean that I was hitting on anyone.

And even if I did...

Eventspire reminds me of my grandfather far to much for any of that to transpire. FAR to much
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Postby Psyonide on Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:15 pm

Lets have a boy/girl party with your grandfather.
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Postby EventSpire on Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:14 am

spinachdip wrote:
FunnyComic Lover wrote:
EventSpire wrote:whatever, fuck me.


I'll leave hitting on you to spinachdip, or possibly Padriac



Just because I offered for everyone to lick me doesnt mean that I was hitting on anyone.

And even if I did...

Eventspire reminds me of my grandfather far to much for any of that to transpire. FAR to much


How old do you guys think I am?
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Postby mithril721 on Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:04 pm

EventSpire wrote:How old do you guys think I am?


Haha... I didn't think you were old enough to be a grandfather, that's for sure. I was thinking probably lowish 20s? Out of curiosity... how old are you? (If you don't mind sharing..)

Oh and Padriac... I think what you offered was to lick Psyonide... not for everyone to lick you.
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Postby YarnIsland on Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:24 pm

My guess is 18-22.
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Postby FunnyComic Lover on Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:10 pm

I always thought he was older than most of the rest of us.
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Postby EventSpire on Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:22 pm

It's a secret I'll take to my grave.
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Postby YarnIsland on Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:59 pm

Which is pretty soon huh...?

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Postby Psyonide on Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:05 am

Hmmpf, there's no joy in discussing death while hungover.
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Postby EventSpire on Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:41 am

Grandfathers cannot break necks or hearts like I can.
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Postby spinachdip on Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:49 am

all I meant was that he seemed a little embittered towards the world....much like my grandfather. Although, now that we are mentioning it Eventspire does definetly have an aged superiority going on....
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