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Postby El SillY on Mon Mar 03, 2003 4:19 am

Once, there was a week ago when the forums died, at that point I had made a topic where I attempted to collect opinions on the US - Iraq conflict for an essay, then the forums died. I am still in need of opinions, supply me with opinions or I fear I shall perish as so many newts before me have.

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Postby BabyJ on Mon Mar 03, 2003 9:28 am

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Postby justinpie on Mon Mar 03, 2003 9:40 am

I'm not a fan of Saddam, but I think it's a waste of resources and lives to invade Iraq militarily, especially now that inspections are actually underway. We haven't found any real link between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein, and there's never been any proof by the U.S. government that asserts a connection, or their stockpiling of weapons of M.D. (the closest we got was that unsubstantiated conversation Colin Powell presented, and that just showed the Iraqis being shady about inspections - it doesn't present any of the proof the States said it had before the inspections ever began).

It's kind of a tricky scenario, since America's war-monger posturing is making the inspections work more effectively, but war would shut all inspections down. I think the big U.S. rush to war is just that American troops, with their heavy gear, would have more success invading in the colder months than the summertime. And a quick, decisive victory would increase GWB's chances in the polls.

But I don't believe that's worth jumping the gun, breeding more anti-U.S. sentiment, and breaking down America's international relationships (some of which have been carefully nurtured for decades) just so George W Bush can blow his wad sooner instead of later, and look more successful in the upcoming 2004 elections.
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Postby *Kludge* on Mon Mar 03, 2003 10:19 am

I'm not a fan of Saddam


...is one of the wierdest things about this (pre-)conflict. Politics makes for strange bedfellows, and the fact that in support of peace I'm forced to agree (on some issues) with a man who is clearly a bastard makes me feel quite uncomfortable. But I think that's good. It's quite a grown-up problem in that sense - almost every angle can be worked quite intelligently. On the one hand I'm not in favour of Iraq (or indeed anyone) having missiles. On the other, with the US and UK government constantly saying that they'll attack no matter what, you can see why the Iraqis might be somewhat reluctant to destroy their defences.

An even-handed peace-mongering seems to me to be the only polite and sane response - we shouldn't hate americans because of Bush, nor should we hate iraqis because of Saddam. Something has to be done about both of them, frankly, but killing iraqis isn't the answer any more than killing americans is.

The problem with the world at the moment is that too many people have got away with saying one thing and doing another. That's got to stop, and it's something countries can't necessarily impose on one another.
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Postby LCARS on Mon Mar 03, 2003 4:29 pm

Sadaam is up to something, he didn't build those rockets and those chemical warfare plants to whistle dixie. He's a power hungry manipulative dictator who should not be in a position of power.
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Postby Jake on Mon Mar 03, 2003 8:49 pm

I'm not the most well-informed person in the world on this issue, but the impression I've gotten since the beginning was that this thing just sort of came out of nowhere. That is to say, rather than reacting to an actual and clear danger, Bush has gone out and picked a fight. Some say that the purpose of this war is to acquire the oil that lies beneath the Iraqi soil. Bush keeps saying it's to protect the world's freedom. I don't know about that.
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Postby Dezro on Mon Mar 03, 2003 8:59 pm

Someone should just hire a few thousand gun nuts, get down to Iraq, take over, kill Saddam, and rename it 'Freedonia'. Then, we hire some Marx brothers impersonators...
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Postby theangryQ on Tue Mar 04, 2003 6:28 am

Yes, Saddam is a very bad man. He's tyrranical and murderous and completely unhinged. However, I still don't think invasion is the best way to go about it. (Anyone remember a similar war we had a decade ago... didn't really work too well...) What's the country going to look like once he's kicked out? Who's going to rule? We have no bloody idea, really; we've just been focusing on "then we're gonna kill him!" Well, then what?

Awful a despot as Saddam is, I don't think that factors in at all. I think Bush's previous actions have shown he really doesn't give a damn about protecting freedom or human rights.

We're infuriating everybody else in the world. Our allies aren't backing us up anymore. I don't think we really need any more enemies.

Oh, and everything justinpie said.
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Postby El SillY on Tue Mar 04, 2003 7:09 am

theangryQ wrote:Anyone remember a similar war we had a decade ago... didn't really work too well...)


Gulf wars anyone?

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Postby Jake on Tue Mar 04, 2003 10:55 pm

Aahhh. That's some good visual satire there.
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Postby BabyJ on Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:39 pm

I wish it was bigger!

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Postby El SillY on Sat Mar 08, 2003 3:10 am

thank you all, I hope that free cookies will be in all your futures.
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Postby theangryQ on Sat Mar 08, 2003 7:06 am

They were, actually. My family sent me some in the mail.
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Postby TODCRAProductions on Sat Mar 08, 2003 12:16 pm

EL SILLY IS PSYCHIC. You should give him all your money for future-tellings. He will know that you will soon come into money, or that your dead loved ones are in a better place!
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Postby LCARS on Sat Mar 08, 2003 9:45 pm

He should right the fourtunes down on paper and put them in the cookies... like some sort of... fourtune...bearing...cookie hybrid.
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Postby El SillY on Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:03 am

LCARS: My cookie tells me your dead wife waits for you in Spain.

CRAP: You will soon come out of money, also, you will send me all your money.

-El SillY, LEMONS!

Also, I like refering to people as "CRAP", it will become a trend and people will worship me not unlike cod.
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Postby *Kludge* on Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:50 am

I got free cookies from my friend on Sunday.

But I put it to you that you are not in fact psychic, as you failed to predict that I would be English, and therefore refer to them at all times as biscuits. At all times.
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Postby El SillY on Mon Mar 10, 2003 5:28 am

*Kludge* wrote:I got free cookies from my friend on Sunday.

But I put it to you that you are not in fact psychic, as you failed to predict that I would be English, and therefore refer to them at all times as biscuits. At all times.


There is a distinct difference between psychic cookies and biscuits; this difference is so differential, that the difference is infact so extraordinary different from previous deviations from the theme of differences that they appear to be very different.
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Postby Jake on Mon Mar 10, 2003 9:14 am

I have absolutely no stance on the cookie issue.
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Postby BabyJ on Mon Mar 10, 2003 2:29 pm

So you HATE cookies, is that it, Jake?

You offend me with your ANTICOOKERIENESS, so now
instead of saying "I'd like some Jakefries" I will now
say "GIVE ME LIBERTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!".

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Postby *Kludge* on Mon Mar 10, 2003 3:14 pm

All we are saying is give crackers a chance.
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Postby BabyJ on Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:23 pm

My company just got the contract to rebuild saltine factories in Iraq
after the war! I mean, my old company. I used to run.

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Postby LCARS on Mon Mar 10, 2003 7:28 pm

Mr. Vice President, we must get you to a secure area. Preferably somewhere with less peanut butter!
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Postby BabyJ on Mon Mar 10, 2003 8:15 pm

Off to the safety of Reeses' Peak!
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