KOJ "cells" an interesting idea.

The noble Order of the Knights of Jubal traces its origins back to the Year Two Thousand A.D., when a group of distinguished persons of good and true character, founded the order to promote chivalry and honour. The order takes its name from our leader, Alexander Jubal McRae, who on two (so far) occasions has been seriously injured, in one case fatally, defending an innocent woman from attackers.

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Postby Jamie on Fri Jan 11, 2002 10:48 am

I love the idea too. We, the knights, are now discussing the details of what we need to
do to get this rolling. Thanks again Rei for a wonderful idea and thank you all for adding you special talents and ideas to this new adventure!<P>Take care,<P>(Sir) Jamie, KCI in the <A HREF="http://ivbalis.org" TARGET=_blank> Order of the Knights of Jubal </A>
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Postby Sir Greg on Sun Jan 13, 2002 4:13 am

Hi there!<P>I've been following this thread for some time now, but I avoided posting until I had sufficient time sit "sit and think" about the issue.<P>Rei, I think you've hit the nail on the head here. It's an excellent idea, and the model you've come up with is very good.<P>A couple of suggestions/additions:
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In regards to having a record keeper, if possible this should be a Knight if there is one it that cell. Simply for the practical reason that it's one of the Knights that will have to stand up in Conclave and report on it.<P>That's not to say that there must be a Knight in each cell. Far from it. But, if there is one, from a practical perspective they should be the recordkeeper.<P>Another option would be to have an Administrative cell, to co-ordinate the creation of new cells, collect and collate reports, and manage the web site. This cell would then post reports to the message baords, and report to the Conclave.
---------------------------<P>In regards to an index of cells, that's an excellent idea and we should be able to run it on the web page.<P>Likewise, we could work the "lines of communication" issue with some mailing/distribution lists from the web server. e.g. cell_Australia@ivbalis.org; cell_WebHatred@ivbalis.org<P>--------------------------<P>However, there is also an issue of security we need to face and it would be best to discuss it now.<P>The Keenspot boards are a fairly public forum, but private e-mail is not secure either. It is conceivable that there would be associations (and possible governments) who do not agree with what the Order may be doing.<P>For own own safety and security, it would be best to use something like PGP to permit digitally signed and encrypted e-mail.<P>It is available (free) for non-commercial use at <A HREF="http://www.pgpi.org" TARGET=_blank>http://www.pgpi.org</A> <P>It's very easy to install and use, but if anyone wants it, I'll write up some easy-to-use documentation.<P>Ironically, PGP works on a cell-based "web of trust" too, mostly for the same reasons we are.
---------------------------------<P>Aside from that, good work Rei! If you need any help with logistics, drop me a line.<P>PIQE,
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Postby Rei on Sun Jan 13, 2002 6:35 am

hi Greg, you've beaten me to the punch with regards to an 'Admin' cell <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif"><P>In my mind, this cell is not the 'central organizer' in terms of telling other cells what to do. Rather it is the central repository of reports and information as to what all the other cells are doing...kind of cyberspace bookkeepers <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif"> Once again I put my hand up to gather together the 'bookkeepers' or 'admin cell' or whatever the frell we end up calling it <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif"><P>Perhaps, Greg, there would be close ties between this admin group and the webbies group, so that there is as little delay as possible between a cell forming and their details being listed on the website...<P>How difficult would it be to maintain the always fluctuating list of emails for each cell group? Or can a new cell request of the website team to create or cancel a mailout account? Questions for those amongst us with more technical skill, methinks <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif"><P>questions, comments, please keep them coming!<P>if people don't have any more ideas, and the Conclave is amenable to the idea, maybe we can start nutting out the 'down-and-dirty' functional logistics of the concept<P>ttys
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Postby Rei on Mon Jan 14, 2002 4:39 am

*grynz*<P>why am I seeing the web and admin cells slowly merging over time <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif"><P>what other jobs can you see that need to be 'filled' straight away?<P>Rei
who is still volunteering to head up the admin cell if noone has any objections
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Postby Sir Greg on Mon Jan 14, 2002 4:52 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rei:
<B>How difficult would it be to maintain the always fluctuating list of emails for each cell group? Or can a new cell request of the website team to create or cancel a mailout account? Questions for those amongst us with more technical skill, methinks <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/wink.gif"></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Requesting the website team would be the way to do it, since ultimately it will be me (personally) who does it.<P>As for how easy it is to manage the mailing lists, methinks 'tis straightforward, but I will enquire of my brother, who has more skill in this area.<P>(He also half-owns the server which is runing the EI website, plus about 15 other domains of his.)<P>The Admin cell and webbies cell will have a good deal to do with each other. Since I manage the website at the moment, I'm happy to head up the "webbies" cell. <P>PIQE,
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Postby Rei on Thu Jan 17, 2002 4:37 am

*nods*<P>fair enough<P>Greg, can we start listing stuff on the website?<P>Rei
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Postby Silver Adept on Thu Jan 17, 2002 7:40 am

Meh. It's ready to go without us... I suggest, then, that <I>pro tempore</I>, we set up Rei in the administrative cell, and I'll be the Knight for that cell, and there's the hate sites cell that just wants to get going...<P>In other words, lay down a temporary structure until a permanent one can appear.
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Postby Suelyn on Thu Jan 17, 2002 8:20 am

I'll put my hand up and volunteer to be in the Admin/Webbie cell, since I have some small skills in the area (and I'm also in the same vicinity as Sir Greg and Rei which will probably help with response times).<P>Suelyn
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Postby Rei on Thu Jan 17, 2002 10:19 am

hi Sue, thanks for the offer<P>may i ask where you are again? Was it Qld? *my memory is getting defective again*<P>i think the four of us will be sufficient for now **looks to Greg, Sue and Silver for confirmation of that**<P>perhaps we can start by getting together a list of active cells or cells wishing to get starting.<P>I think I'll start a new thread so nothing gets lost<P>Rei
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Postby Silver Adept on Fri Jan 18, 2002 8:51 am

I'm in. I have very limited HTML/Webbie skills as well, born out of necessity of keeping a website running. <P>As an admin, I'd probably be a catalouger and backup copy man...<P>But I'm in for now.
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Postby TKarrde98 on Sat Jan 19, 2002 10:00 am

Hmm... Can you make it five? I've not been around 'cause I'm getting tired of all talk and no walk, but if you're getting ready to do the walking, count me in!<P>e-mail my hotmail (see profile) and I'll give you my private e-mail.<P>Grant
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Postby Sekhmet on Sat Jan 19, 2002 10:12 am

Sounds like a great idea -- only one caveat, some members have their hands tied in the "real world" (::laughing hysterically at own phrasing: <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/smile.gif"> and can not participate in real-time activities. My hands are tied because I don't have any available time needing to be scheduled. I haven't posted in a long time or read the threads even because I've been doing schoolwork. I'm also moving sometime this summer, from Las Vegas to Boston.<P>Whatever I can do, I will -- I'm good at keeping records straight and insanely well organised if they are put in front of me. I'm also a philosophical rambler, if that's any help anywhere.<P>Sabi, CI<P>------------------
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Postby Rei on Sun Jan 20, 2002 5:43 am

indeed it does!<P>thanks to Greg, i also now have an easily remember address: rei@ivbalis.org<P>If you're forming a cell, thinking about forming a cell, want more information on HOW to form a cell in the Order, I'm your Girl Friday. *weg* Email, or post on the thread I've started, and I'll give you all the help you need.<P>Currently there are two cells listed, the Admin cell (thanks to the other volunteers to handle the bookwork! But can I get your emails too? Just send them straight to me) and the IT cell (hey Greg, is you motto 'the IT cell: the _IT_ place to be' *listens to the groans at the corny pun*)<P>but we need more!! Let's hear 'em!<P>rei
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Postby Sir Greg on Sun Jan 20, 2002 12:16 pm

OK, I've set up a draft section on the web site at <A HREF="http://www.ivbalis.org/cells" TARGET=_blank>http://www.ivbalis.org/cells</A> <P>One note: I've decided (unilaterally) to call the webbies cell "IT services") after reading Jamie's posting about setting up an IRC server.<P>It seems to me that this cell should handle all the IT infrastructure and technical matters, and the Administration cell handle the content and roster side.<P>That, of course, doesn't preclude a member from belonging to both cells. :-)<P>PIQE,
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Postby Jamie on Sun Jan 20, 2002 12:36 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sir Greg:
<B>OK, I've set up a draft section on the web site at <A HREF="http://www.ivbalis.org/cells" TARGET=_blank>http://www.ivbalis.org/cells</A> <P>One note: I've decided (unilaterally) to call the webbies cell "IT services") after reading Jamie's posting about setting up an IRC server.<P>It seems to me that this cell should handle all the IT infrastructure and technical matters, and the Administration cell handle the content and roster side.<P>That, of course, doesn't preclude a member from belonging to both cells. :-)<P>PIQE,
Sir Greg<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Sir Greg,<P>Thank you for creating that! It looks like the Cell Project is a Go!<P>Take care,<P>(Sir) Jamie, KCI in the <A HREF="http://ivbalis.org" TARGET=_blank> Order of the Knights of Jubal </A>
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Postby Jamie on Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:05 am

I'm reviving this thread. Even though we may be a long way from this stage, it seemed like the best idea for real-life solutions to what we were aiming for.

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