For those interested in any Coat-of-Arms...

The noble Order of the Knights of Jubal traces its origins back to the Year Two Thousand A.D., when a group of distinguished persons of good and true character, founded the order to promote chivalry and honour. The order takes its name from our leader, Alexander Jubal McRae, who on two (so far) occasions has been seriously injured, in one case fatally, defending an innocent woman from attackers.

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Postby Kanaeda Kuonji on Sat Feb 10, 2001 10:26 am

I found a good number of websites for those who either want to look up their family coat-of-arms, or want to create one of their own.
<A HREF="http://www.freecoatsofarms.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.freecoatsofarms.com/</A>
This will allow you to create a coat-of-arms online for free.
<A HREF="http://www.digiserve.com/heraldry/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.digiserve.com/heraldry/</A> <P>This site has some great links and has coats-of-arms for a lot of people.<P>Also, for anyone who may be asian, I'm not leaving you out.
<A HREF="http://www.militaria.sgtsearch.com/heraldic/heraldjapan.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.militaria.sgtsearch.com/heraldic/heraldjapan.html</A> <P>This will show some of the Asian heraldry...<P>For those who are interested, I hope this helps...<P>------------------
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Postby Jamie on Sat Feb 10, 2001 10:30 am

Wow! Thank you Kanaeda for doing that! I know we all appreciate it!!! Thanks!<P>Jamie<P>------------------
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Postby Kanaeda Kuonji on Sat Feb 10, 2001 10:51 am

Hey, no problem. I figured since we'd all want chivalry restored, knowing how to find a good coat-of-arms would be helpful. So, I checked out Lycos, and I found some good sites. There are a lot of these sites out there, I've only scratched the surface (even though I think I hit the mother lode).<P>------------------
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Postby TheSarahLady on Sun Feb 11, 2001 10:13 am

If one is (eventually) knighted, is the family coat of arms of the person acceptable or should it be an original creation? <P>~Sarah Beth CI
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Postby TimberBram on Sun Feb 11, 2001 11:41 am

Personal opinion only. Standard disclaimers. Not a lawyer. Not a herald.<P>It is very difficult to adequately prove lineage and the right to a certain existing coat of arms unless you already know that it belongs to your family. A coat of arms for family X may not be applicable to you in spite of having the same last name, because you actually belong to family X-prime, or a branch of the family that was not awarded the arms.<P>Add to this that USians are pretty much free to do what they want since the country lacks a College of Heralds, while Canada, Australia, and others have to yield to the British College. And if your derivative nationality is <I>not</I> British, you need to deal with the College for the appropriate country (for example, I have to deal with the Netherlands as well).<P>For these reasons, I would suggest that any arms for a Knight of the Order of Jubal be specifically designed for that purpose. Sir Gregory will have a section in the Eqvites Ivbalis website containing basic heraldry information that you can consult. I and a number of other members of the Order have enough knowledge and skill to blazon (state in words) and emblazon (state graphically) any arms desired.<P>Also, because all images are copyrightable graphics, I suggest caution when using existing arms.<P>Finally, it has been suggested that the arms of a Knight of Jubal contain the "sea of bends <I>gules</I> and <I>argent</I> with the spectacles of Jubal <I>sable</I>" as in my own arms below.<P>Peace,
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Postby Kanaeda Kuonji on Mon Feb 12, 2001 3:48 am

If you need to find out about your family and what coat of arms, if any, apply, it isn't a bad idea to look at the Mormon Church's genealogical archives (the largest such one in the world). <P>They have a sight on the internet. I'll give you the URL when I find it...<P>------------------
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