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Postby Won-Tolla on Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:28 am

No new pictures yet (I'm SO lazy...) but last night I had some thoughts about the different screen formats.
To recap, the traditional screen is 4:3 (Some would - and do - say 1.33:1, but then you might as well say 1:0.75 or something). Widescreen TVs are 16:9.
Looking at those numbers I just noticed that the numbers in the new screen ratio are the squares of those in the old! So you could say a widescreen is 4
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Postby Little_Dragon on Sun Oct 05, 2003 6:51 pm

The speed at which you could comfortably turn the crank on the earliest cylinder-players resulted in record speeds of about 80 rpm, and when electric motors were introduced later, ~78 rpm was selected because it required the fewest gears.
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Postby Nebulous on Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:34 pm

IIRC, 45s and 33 1/3s were introduced at about the same time. Competing formats from different companies.

The 45s had about the same playing time as a 78, but was a smaller record. The 33 1/3s were about the same size as the 78s, but had a longer playing time; thus the term 'LP'.

Both formats became standards with a clear separation of power. 45s for individual songs and LPs for albums for longer, usually classical, pieces.

There may have been some LPs designed for the 16 2/3 speed, but obviously they never caught on. 8)
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Postby Little_Dragon on Sun Oct 05, 2003 10:26 pm

33 1/3 rpm came about as a result of the movie industry needing a long-playing disc that could operate in sync with the projector. At the time, a single film reel was eleven minutes long, and at 33 1/3 rpm a record had the same duration.
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Postby IAmMe UK on Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:40 pm

*looks at posts on record speeds*

You learn something new every day. I don't think it'll ever be any use to me to know that but it's interesting none the less.

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Postby Won-Tolla on Tue Oct 14, 2003 1:53 am

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Nothing like changing the subject to revive a thread. Okay, back to graphics... I just thought I'd see how A Screen Apart looks on an ordinary TV. I also set the screen bright, so there's at least a little progress...
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Postby Won-Tolla on Sat Oct 18, 2003 10:32 am

Tinker, tinker, tinker... Painted the box a bit lighter, made the screen corners smaller and added a speaker grille. Well, at least that is what it's supposed to look like!
It may look a bit funny with what appears to be a wooden grille on what appears to be a metal cabinet, but what the heck. It's a fantasy appliance on an imaginary world. Don't confuse me with details! ;)
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Postby Won-Tolla on Sat Nov 15, 2003 11:29 am

Time to rescue this from page 2 again...
So I thought, what else would I like to put on a fictive TV? A channel indicator would be nice.
Even nicer if it could be made to change channel numbers! So I sat down and made up a handful of LED digits that can be combined several different ways. Here's how it looks with the TV tuned to the Hitchhiker channel. :D

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Just for fun I made a little animation with the digits. Just look at the digit below. If it's a zero it should start cycling soon. If it doesn't, it cycled before you got here and you have to reload to see it.

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Postby Won-Tolla on Sun Nov 16, 2003 1:52 am

Actually what I've been spending the last pawful of days on (on and off in small bursts of creativity, not continously!) is working on some small transition effects for whenever I get around to animating the set and want someone to change channels while you're looking.
Sure, I could probably get away with flicking straight from one digit to the other as in the animation above, but it would look even cooler if you got a short glimpse of segments fading in or out as the numbers change.
So far I have just put the effects together in one big picture that I split in half and trimmed off the excessive parts of to fit in here without stretching the page. Here it is:

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Postby Won-Tolla on Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:12 am

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Postby Won-Tolla on Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:20 am

Back in Imagine I made a black panel to put the digits on. The red thing on the left is the power on indicator, and the blank area to the right is supposed to cover the IR receiver for the remote.

The object is black, so I had to put a white square behind it to make it stand out from the background. The reason the square looks pink is that it's actually a little behind the panel, and the power light is leaking a bit of (red) light through the back.

You may wonder what it would have looked like without the white background. Go ahead, wonder! The answer is in the picture below, which is exactly the same scene only without the white square.
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Postby Won-Tolla on Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:27 am

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Postby Won-Tolla on Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:33 am

And still the day isn't over. The next step was of course to fit the panel on the TV...
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Postby Won-Tolla on Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:50 am

This text was actually inserted the next morning, I originally added this and the next post to get over the page boundary so the last posts would show, but now I'm using it to present the 'finished' result of inserting the new object into the environment instead.

I consider it (the TV, not the bar) finished for now, I'm not going to start fiddling with more knobs, ventilation slots and stuff. Maybe I'll change the back end to make it more monitorlike, the way Jappus did in his project. (See link earlier) I'll definitely put something under the TV to hold it up so it doesn't look like it's floating in the air. ;)
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Postby Won-Tolla on Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:52 am

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Postby Little_Dragon on Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:21 am

You realize, of course, that you'll have to build the remote next.
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Postby Won-Tolla on Fri Nov 28, 2003 1:42 am

Actually I think Leonard keeps it in a drawer. (And I haven't done any drawers yet. Duh.)
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Postby Won-Tolla on Sun Nov 30, 2003 5:41 am

I tried to make something to put under the TV to hold it up (cheaper than antigravity). Above is the gadget half finished, below it's finished and in place.
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Postby Nebulous on Sun Nov 30, 2003 4:44 pm

Won-Tolla wrote:(cheaper than antigravity)


Antigravity is cheap.

Gravity is what costs a whole planet. 8)
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Postby Won-Tolla on Sun Nov 30, 2003 9:15 pm

You're thinking of zero gravity.

Gravity is free when you've already got the planet. ;)
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Postby Won-Tolla on Tue May 04, 2004 3:02 pm

Five months have passed, and practically everyone have left for the new forum. But as you can tell from the footnotes, I recently went through the whole thread and edited all the posts with pictures.
The reason is that I have found a new place to host pictures that should work better than the previous, so I have updated all the links and started a new presentation thread on the new forum. (It's the one called "3D Jungle") With a bit of luck this will rekindle my interest in the project and get me started working on it again.
I'm writing this mostly to bump the thread. Unless lots of people start posting here again, it's likely to remain at the top for the foreseeable future...
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