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"Firemen with flamethrowers" Dec 23

PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 4:09 am
by Tim Tylor
Heh. Always thought that was a dumb saying. :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 4:45 pm
by sun tzu
Did you catch Carlin's expression as he said that? He actually looked...angry.

Also, it looks like this is following Fiona's reflections in "Unforgiving".

PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2002 4:00 am
by Tim Tylor
sun tzu wrote:Did you catch Carlin's expression as he said that? He actually looked...angry.

Oh, he can be... when appropriate.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 2:10 pm
by Whistle
Don't know about flamethrowers, but I know they use dynamite at times...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2002 8:47 pm
by mouse
if one wanted to be difficult, one could point out the use of backfires....but i take the point. (and applaud it, actually. who was it who said "an eye for an eye soon makes the whole world blind?")

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2003 4:22 am
by Tim Tylor
And while we're at it:

    Where there's a Will there's a motive
    That which doesn't kill us makes us poorly
    A bird in the hand does it on the wrist

(Thanks to comedian Mike Harding for that last one)

Happy '03, folks! :D

forest fires

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 10:58 am
by ycefyre
As far as fighting fire with fire goes, I think that's a good comeback for it. :D

However, Forest Service fire fighters DO fight fire with fire (to make burnlines that (hopefully) the out-of-control fire cannot/will not cross), and controlled burns are very helpful for preventing major fires, because they burn up all the dead stuff (underbrush, trees, branches, etc.) so there is less fuel for uncontrolled burns (i.e. forest fires). Forest fire is basically the only natural disaster in north Idaho, and there's a lot of forest and Forest Service land up here.
I do agree that that saying is rather illogical in any other sense, though.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 11:33 am
by Lazygun
"Firemen with flamethrowers"

Izzat a reference to Fahrenheit 451?

Fighting Fire with Fire

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 11:46 am
by Rampantmouse
Actually, the Forestry service does start small controlled forest fire to 'thin out' the overgrown areas of the forests. Without such efforts, you get the same kind of massive out-of-control blazes we see in California and other areas where environmentalists have blocked such precautions.

As for not using force to defend the innocent from tyrants, well, we saw how well non-violence worked for the jewish people in World War II. For that matter, economic sanctions to deter the construction of weapons of mass destruction and nuclear devices only work when the targetted country can't make up the loss by selling the nukes, etc, to other countries.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 12:16 pm
by Limax
Ah, yes... like the controlled burn that got out of control in New Mexico. Some good friends of mine lost everything due to the forestry services' blunder.