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Knives!!!

Postby Storm Crow on Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:09 pm

As I mentioned in a previous post, I have been commissioned by my boss to make some knives for him to use as Christmas presents. Six knives in total from him so far, and possibly some more after Christmas.

I had only sold one knife previously. It typically takes me months to finish, simply because I get distracted by other aspects of my life. So I have been working on these solidly for the last couple of weeks and have completed 1/2 of the order and am well along on the other half.

These first three are a set of chef knives. The blades are my boss's designs. They are forged from leaf springs using a coffe can gas forge, stock removed using primarily a Sears $100 2"x42" belt grinder and some sandpaper flapwheels chucked up in a cordless hand drill, quenched in pre-heated vegetable oil, and temper drawn using tempering tongs. The handles are naturally curved oak branches from a pile of tree timmings out back of the shop, with mesquite spacers on the fillet knife and paring knife. The wood is treated with Danish oil. The bolsters are copper from electrical bus bars. The only materials in the knives that aren't salvaged are some plastic fiber spacer material and the epoxy.

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These three are the sharpest knives I've ever made. They are the first actual "shaving sharp" blades of mine. I've been able to do "semi-shaving sharp", where it would pop a few hairs off, but these will clear a patch in a single stroke. The way I did it was by using a long strap of scrap leather and some Semi-chrome brand polishing paste as a strop after using the whetrocks to get the blades to semi-shaving. It happened very quickly once I went to the strop.

I would love to have the handle of the vegetable chopping knife on a Bowie knife about twice as long and the same width and thickness. :D[code][/code]
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Re: Knives!!!

Postby Storm Crow on Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:12 pm

AAAARRRGGGHHH!!! The thrice accursed pictures are cropped again! And Explorer doesn't give me an option to view the full picture when I right click!!! How do other people get their pictures to post uncropped?
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Re: Knives!!!

Postby feonixrift on Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:30 pm

I'm not sure picture cropping is going on in the upload, per se... On my screen they show just fine, full image, but my screen is quite high resolution. If I shrink the browser window to less than the image width plus the sidebar width etc., they show cropped. Did you try right clicking on the image and selecting "View image"? That should show the image file outside the context of the page.
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Re: Knives!!!

Postby cacao on Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:38 am

feonixrift wrote:Did you try right clicking on the image and selecting "View image"? That should show the image file outside the context of the page.

That's what I meant in the previous thread, but perhaps translating from french wasn't a good idea :-)

Anyway, the knives look nice. Are the fibers and epoxy necessary?
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Re: Knives!!!

Postby Storm Crow on Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:40 am

Well, my screen is set to a different resolution now and the whole picture shows.

Cacao, are you asking if I could eliminate the spacers and epoxy to make it completely salvaged? Yes, theoretically. The spacer material is there to help me even out any flaws in the fit between the bolsters and the handle. They aren't necessary, but they make life easier. I've used leather for the same function plenty of times, although it is thicker, and it can be done without spacers altogether. The epoxy can be replaced with cutler's resin, which has several recipes. I've seen it done with a pinon pine pitch and deer dung mixture. But epoxy is cheap, readily available to me (no pinon pines in this area), and works better. It doesn't get soft in the heat if you leave the knife in your pickup during the summer. So that's what I use.

I'll put the pictures of the second half of the order up soon.
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Re: Knives!!!

Postby cacao on Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:56 am

Storm Crow wrote:Well, my screen is set to a different resolution now and the whole picture shows.

Cacao, are you asking if I could eliminate the spacers and epoxy to make it completely salvaged? Yes, theoretically. The spacer material is there to help me even out any flaws in the fit between the bolsters and the handle. They aren't necessary, but they make life easier. I've used leather for the same function plenty of times, although it is thicker, and it can be done without spacers altogether. The epoxy can be replaced with cutler's resin, which has several recipes. I've seen it done with a pinon pine pitch and deer dung mixture. But epoxy is cheap, readily available to me (no pinon pines in this area), and works better. It doesn't get soft in the heat if you leave the knife in your pickup during the summer. So that's what I use.

I was thinking about whatever natural material one can find in the wilderness (animal glue? Wikipedia says not all are water soluble), but come to think of it, the availability mustn't be great (besides, who wants to kill Bambi for his joints). Recycling polymer products like polystyrene (dissolving it in acetone then letting it dry) might be an option but the result will still dissolve in organic solvents. Maybe there is something interesting in all the recent work in biodegradable polymers. I suspect leather is not cheap?
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Re: Knives!!!

Postby Storm Crow on Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:31 am

Cacao - Cutler's resin is made from tree resins, with some kind of fiber in it. I think it often has some wax mixed in, but not sure why. Sometimes brick dust. The simplest I've seen, like I said, was pinon pine pitch and deer dung for fiber. Critter-based glue probably would work as well.

I bought a large bag of leather scraps a number of years ago from Hobby Lobby for $5. Haven't used a quarter of it yet. Mostly I've used it for knife spacers and padding to protect knives from vise jaws while filing on them.
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Re: Knives!!!

Postby steelbowie on Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:19 pm

Your such a creative man! Imagine you made a knife on your own?
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