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Postby broberds on Fri Dec 08, 2000 5:52 am

OK, once again I'm borderline suicidal over how depressingly dead my board has been, so I'm starting a new topic:<P>Who's cooler: Cleo, or that new dorky-white- guy Tarot reader Lucius? Discuss.<P>------------------
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Postby gopher on Fri Dec 08, 2000 7:59 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by broberds:
<B>Who's cooler: Cleo, or that new dorky-white- guy Tarot reader Lucius? Discuss.
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There's a new guy? The only TV I've watched in the last month or so was the Dune miniseries, and I ignored the commercials, so I dunno. I doubt anyone could outdo Cleo, though. She rocks. Not only do you get a Tarot card reading, but she has a fake Jamacian accent, too. You can't beat that.
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Postby TheKodiak on Sat Dec 09, 2000 4:28 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gopher:
<B>You can't beat that.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I think you can - with Dajuana Byrd. It was supposed to be pronounced "Dahwanna", of course, but I really think it's closer to "Didjawanna bird?"
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Postby gopher on Sun Dec 10, 2000 11:26 am

I wonder why Bob suddenly brought up the topic of Cleo, anyways? Is his wife having Nader's baby? That would be an interesting feat for a single man.
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Postby broberds on Mon Dec 11, 2000 1:40 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gopher:
<B> <P>My main problem with the series was some of the actors. It just seemed like a lot of the actors had no feel for the character. Especially the guy who played Feyd. Sting did a great job with Feyd in the movie. The guy in the series just sucked. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Yeah, the miniseries' Feyd guy wasn't near as good as Sting. Still, it was a lot better telling of the story than the movie, which combined the aforementioned hideous voiceovers with a fistful of shortcutting (to fit into a movie length) and just plain WRONG stuff like those voice amplification things.
A few notes on the miniseries:
1) The William Hurt Mumbling Problem.
2) Piter's eyes should be blue.
3) Feyd was lame but the Baron was cool.
4) The half-nude Baron scene falls into "too much information" territory.
5) The final battle was nifty, especially when they lopped Rabban's head off.
6) I miss the "knife through the chin" bit at the end of the movie.
7) Cool worms.<P>As for the D&D movie: You just can't make a good movie out of a board game. You really shouldn't even *try*.
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Postby TheKodiak on Mon Dec 11, 2000 2:22 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by broberds:
<B>As for the D&D movie: You just can't make a good movie out of a board game. You really shouldn't even *try*.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Unrelated note : D&D is not, strictly speaking, a board game.<P>Unrelated note : Clue wasn't that bad.<P>Unrelated note : Saving Private Ryan was clearly based on Axis & Allies.<P>Unrelated note : I would still pay money to see a D&D movie with a Weisman/Hicks script.
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Postby gopher on Mon Dec 11, 2000 2:26 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by broberds:<B>1) the William Hurt Mumbling Problem.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Agreed. He just didn't have the intensity he should have.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>2) Piter's eyes should be blue.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Who's idea was it to make everyone's eyes glow in the dark? And I think that you meant Paul.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>4) The half-nude Baron scene falls into "too much information" territory.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The book was a lot worse in that respect.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>5) The final battle was nifty, especially when they lopped Rabban's head off.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah! Nothing better than a crowd shouting while a little kid holds up a bloody head! Woohoo!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>6) I miss the "knife through the chin" bit at the end of the movie.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
It wouldn't've had the same effect, I don't think. Rather than "Dammit! They killed Sting!" it would have been more of an "Eh. He's dead" reaction.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>7) Cool worms.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think I liked the sandy color of the movie worms better. Those shots with the rows of teeth were really cool, though.
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Postby frunk on Mon Dec 11, 2000 2:48 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheKodiak:
<B> Unrelated note : D&D is not, strictly speaking, a board game.<P>Unrelated note : Clue wasn't that bad.<P>Unrelated note : Saving Private Ryan was clearly based on Axis & Allies.<P>Unrelated note : I would still pay money to see a D&D movie with a Weisman/Hicks script.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>This is my favorite set of unrelated notes ever.
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Postby broberds on Mon Dec 11, 2000 2:55 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheKodiak:
<B> Unrelated note : D&D is not, strictly speaking, a board game.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Ah, forgive! I here am new. It's my dirty little secret that I never played D&D and don't know jack about it. When I was a kid that made be cool, but in today's geekocentric world it labels me a complete loser <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/frown.gif">.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Unrelated note : Clue wasn't that bad.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>This is true.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Unrelated note : Saving Private Ryan was clearly based on Axis & Allies.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE></B><P>Damn, yer right! I forgot.<P><B> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
Unrelated note : I would still pay money to see a D&D movie with a Weisman/Hicks script.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>If I knew who Weisman and Hicks were I could formulate a much more informed response to this one. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/smile.gif"><P><P>------------------
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Postby broberds on Mon Dec 11, 2000 3:23 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gopher:
<B>2) Piter's eyes should be blue. <P>Who's idea was it to make everyone's eyes glow in the dark? And I think that you meant Paul.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>No no: Piter DeVries, the Harkonnen mentat, has blue eyes in the book cuz he eats so much spice. But the Piter in the miniseries didn't.
Yeah, and the glowing was OOC. They shoulda just made em blue.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>5) The final battle was nifty, especially when they lopped Rabban's head off.<P>Yeah! Nothing better than a crowd shouting while a little kid holds up a bloody head! Woohoo!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE></B><P>I'm a sucker for that kinda thing. What can I say?<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>7) Cool worms.<P>I think I liked the sandy color of the movie worms better. Those shots with the rows of teeth were really cool, though.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Yeah, a lighter color would have looked a little better, I suppose, but I still liked em. However, did they ever mention that crysknifes are made from worm teeth? I think they just completely blew that off. <P><P>------------------
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Postby gopher on Mon Dec 11, 2000 4:33 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by broberds:
<B>No no: Piter DeVries, the Harkonnen mentat, has blue eyes in the book cuz he eats so much spice.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Oops. Forgot about him.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>However, did they ever mention that crysknifes are made from worm teeth? I think they just completely blew that off.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>No, they didn't mention it. I can't remember, did they mention it in the movie?
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Postby TheKodiak on Mon Dec 11, 2000 6:10 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by broberds:
<B> If I knew who Weisman and Hicks were I could formulate a much more informed response to this one. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/smile.gif">
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>They "wrote" the Dragonlance saga - I'm not totally clear on exactly how the books were produced, but they were eminently filmable. Unlike the D&D movie, which had a plot that would never have been made into a movie if it weren't married to a license.
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Postby broberds on Mon Dec 11, 2000 9:25 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gopher:
<B>I wonder why Bob suddenly brought up the topic of Cleo, anyways? Is his wife having Nader's baby? That would be an interesting feat for a single man.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Not just any single man, but a gay virgin single man. Or so everybody seems to think.
Why Cleo? I just think she's cool.
And on an unrelated note: What's the verdict on the Dune miniseries?<P>------------------
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Postby ThomasKDye on Mon Dec 11, 2000 9:45 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by broberds:
<B>And on an unrelated note: What's the verdict on the Dune miniseries?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>William Hurt is giving David Duchovny (or Lance Fuller) a run for his money in the mumbling department.<P>"Do Not Act!" <P><P>------------------
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Postby TheKodiak on Mon Dec 11, 2000 10:03 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by broberds:
<B>And on an unrelated note: What's the verdict on the Dune miniseries?
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>It's at least 800 times better than Dungeons & Dragons (the movie). Note that I did not see the Dune miniseries.
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Postby gopher on Mon Dec 11, 2000 10:21 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by broberds:
<B>And on an unrelated note: What's the verdict on the Dune miniseries?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Better than the movie (No annoying voice overs! Hooray!). I wouldn't rate it quite "rockin'", but I would watch it again and might even pay some amount of money for the DVD.<P>My main problem with the series was some of the actors. It just seemed like a lot of the actors had no feel for the character. Especially the guy who played Feyd. Sting did a great job with Feyd in the movie. The guy in the series just sucked. Most of the characters were good, though, and the story is a lot better when given the extra time.
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Postby Lee Herold on Fri Dec 15, 2000 7:30 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by broberds:
<B> As for the D&D movie: You just can't make a good movie out of a board game. You really shouldn't even *try*.
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