Trueseeing 1/13/12

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Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby Jakesdad on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:02 pm

Did anyone else notice Kin's eye pupils contracted the same time Minmax's did?

And Forgath was looking straight at Kin to see what her reaction would be.

..... OK, he's kind of looking just over her head or at her front lock of hair, which is kind of weird. Why is he looking there?
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby spiderwrangler on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:06 pm

Looks more like F is rolling his eyes, and K's are widening in surprise at the face M is making.
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby Marnath on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:07 pm

She's totally in denial. I bet that she's assuming that she could never feel love just because she's never seen any evidence it exists.
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby Jakesdad on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:07 pm

spiderwrangler wrote:Looks more like F is rolling his eyes, and K's are widening in surprise at the face M is making.

Or her eyes are widening in surprise that she's feeling what M is feeling.

Marnath wrote:She's totally in denial. I bet that she's assuming that she could never feel love just because she's never seen any evidence it exists.

Good point. That would be her analytical style.

This reminds me of the Lady Amalthea from "The Last Unicorn" who was forever altered by her love for a Prince Lir. She described herself as "no longer like the others."

Is there a chance that Kin would no longer be welcome among her tribe because of her caring for a human?
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby hraagh on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:10 pm

You're reading too much into it: Forgath is empathically sad, Kin is surprised at Forgath's sudden interruption, and Minmax is being cured.

Though there is something to be said for the location Forgath chose to apply CLW. I found humor in that.
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby ThroughTheWell on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:12 pm

spiderwrangler wrote:Looks more like F is rolling his eyes, and K's are widening in surprise at the face M is making.


Disagree. F's eyes are heavy lidded, which is more of a sad "oh yeah?" look.

Huh. Minmax wipes his nose in panel 1. The blood there goes away. That is attention to detail.
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby mnementh on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:13 pm

Jakesdad wrote:Did anyone else notice Kin's eye pupils contracted the same time Minmax's did?

And Forgath was looking straight at Kin to see what her reaction would be.

..... OK, he's kind of looking just over her head or at her front lock of hair, which is kind of weird. Why is he looking there?

Naaah. He's looking at her; he just has to cock his head off to one side since he only has one good eye.

As for the pupil thingie... Naaah, I'd never notice. Not like THunt spent 3 whole panels on it or nuthin'... ;)

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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby Jakesdad on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:14 pm

hraagh wrote:You're reading too much into it: Forgath is empathically sad, Kin is surprised at Forgath's sudden interruption, and Minmax is being cured.
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We'll find out next week!

hraagh wrote:Though there is something to be said for the location Forgath chose to apply CLW. I found humor in that.

You're reading too much into it. Forgath is just short. :D Har, har.
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby ThroughTheWell on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:19 pm

:lol: The last panel should totaly have F's words changed to "Pull my finger". Even the Foom still works. And it makes the facial expressions so much better. :D
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby Marnath on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:20 pm

ThroughTheWell wrote::lol: The last panel should totaly have F's words changed to "Pull my finger". Even the Foom still works. And it makes the facial expressions so much better. :D



Or "Oooouucchhhh." :D
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby Ageisia on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:20 pm

Minmax is so effing cute in this, I just want to give the big oaf a hug. Not really crazy about Kin's reasoning for turning him down (though I wasn't all that surprised to hear her do something to that effect) "My culture doesn't really do pair-bonding" doesn't really imply to me that she couldn't get emotionally attached to Minmax. But then, she might not really want to talk about her experience with GS, so... yeah. I really liked this comic.
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby CommitsPuns on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:33 pm

I noticed Forgath does not invoke Herbert's name to Cure Light Wounds.

Technically, there is precedent.
http://www.goblinscomic.com/10232005/

altho he does invoke Herbert's name for other spells
http://www.goblinscomic.com/12142005/

Obviously in the end it's all "roll playing" so maybe not that important. And invoking the name might spoil the flow of narrative. Interesting, tho


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I looked at Chief's efforts, and apparently curing wounds doesn't need the god's invocation like other spells. heh. Live and learn.
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby Cooper on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:39 pm

CommitsPuns wrote:I noticed Forgath does not invoke Herbert's name to Cure Light Wounds.

Technically, there is precedent.
http://www.goblinscomic.com/10232005/

altho he does invoke Herbert's name for other spells
http://www.goblinscomic.com/12142005/

Obviously in the end it's all "roll playing" so maybe not that important. And invoking the name might spoil the flow of narrative. Interesting, tho

Oh perhaps that Cure Light Wounds is actually an effect of one of his newly acquired rings.

And, to be fair, Chief cast several spells near the end that didn't have him actively invoking Maglubiyet every time.
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby Brisin on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:50 pm

I see it more as Forgath sighing. He can see that they care for each other and is resigned to the fact that she just doesn't get it yet
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby BigEarsTheFallen on Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:30 pm

The fourth panel is going to become someone's avatar before very long, I just know it.

And yeah, those two are so in love, but I don't think either of them really "get it" yet. Minmax's too dumb, and Kin... yeah, denial.
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby TripsTraps on Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:54 pm

Forgath really shines in this one. With Minmax and Kin around he seems a little shoved to the side at times, but here--in a strip totally about Minmax and Kin--he totally makes it his own. Go Forgath!
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby kurik on Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:12 am

kurik wrote:I just had a thought: What if Kin CAN'T love MinMax? As in yaun-ti don't have that emotion. They mate in a big ol' ball-o-snakes, so I don't really see emotion come into the picture mate selection wise, and I don't know how their family units are arranged, but it's a fair bet they don't follow the 'mom, dad, and kids' mold humans have.

Woohoo, called it! Or close enough anyway.


Heheh, I like the way the spell is showing through MinMax's wounds and Kin's reaction. I get the feeling that Forgath is trying to speed them both through this paticular phase of their relationship just to get it over with.
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby Kataryne on Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:25 am

The more I look at the comic, I don't think Kin is in denial, so much as perhaps she doesn't understand her feelings for Minmax or what Human love is. I mean we are talking about cross-species romance here, she sees things as a yuan-ti not as a human. She clearly has feelings for him, she's reacted as such, but her intelligence is looking at the mating aspect of it, very clinical not emotional. But from all we've seen so far, her emotions and body language contradict what she says, and so I'm not sure she understands exactly what she feels. So she's basing her "not in love" on what she knows up to this point by her species point of view. That also could be why it messes up Psimax's calculations because he views it as human love as well.
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby Xavier78 on Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:57 am

I just get a giant kick out of where Forgath is actually touching to heal Minmax. Maybe I'm misreading it but it really seems like he's making a point of touching MMs heart there... (Also he looks slightly annoyed with that expression if anything else.)
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby YoungAndBeautiful on Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:02 am

Very, VERY nice job on all those looks in this comic. I especially like the last panel for various reasons.
When I have been drawing I always find the eyes one of the most challenging pieces to get right, especially when I'm going for certain emotions/expressions. Kudos to you, Thunt for creating such an enjoyable end result.
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby Zodel on Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:54 am

Honestly, I look at Forgaths face in the final panel, and all I can assume he's thinking is. "Sigh. Kin just kicked him in the guts again." And then proceeding to "Cure" the kick to the gut.
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby skythorn on Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:34 am

Liked this page, but like I thought/said last page, I think Kin cant tell if she is in love or not, the fierce intellect or logic may not rationalise the emotional 'lovey dovey' feelings of humanity.

Still, from the point of view of this story, I think it would be good for Kin to develop love, not in the way she describes as Yian-Ti societal love, but in the way of Human love. Roll on plot exposition. Roll on Reality 38 encounter in the Tower Room ...

Query - I am thinking Kin has humanish top and snake bottom, but that her behaviour is of a human top - being mindlessly pedantic, there is not a blending of human/snake attributes there. A real reptile would need meals of a fair proportion of it's bodyweight to be in the stomachs being digested slowly, then regurgitated (as there are no anus's in snakes), Kin's mouth parts cannot open large enough to eat full sized animal prey (like dogs, pigs or goblins), nor reproductive parts that match a snake (ovipositor or some such term), but mamaries that are humanesque. If the whole tribe looks after young, Kin is currently lactating even though there are no young. I have no idea how Goblinslayer 'raped' Kin - other than
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then healing the resulting wound before it kills her.

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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby MasterMorality on Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:12 am

I'll admit, that's kind of cute, the 'cure light wounds' thing.
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby BinaryTears on Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:20 am

Awww man....
Laughing about Forgath's rings struggle, in the middle of such a touching scene. This is plot spice blending at its finest.

Now for today's essay, class, write 20,000 words on "Is the capacity for love intrinsic to general sentience, or is love specifically a product of the human hormonal and reproductive system? Explore the implications for religion, and interspecies relations."

If anyone can actually answer that for sure, I'd really like to know.
My guess: it's intrinsic. And Kin is capable of love, she just doesn't know it.
But maybe that's only wishful thinking.
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Re: Trueseeing 1/13/12

Postby Borys on Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:23 am

skythorn wrote:Query - I am thinking Kin has humanish top and snake bottom, but that her behaviour is of a human top - being mindlessly pedantic, there is not a blending of human/snake attributes there. A real reptile would need meals of a fair proportion of it's bodyweight to be in the stomachs being digested slowly, then regurgitated (as there are no anus's in snakes),

Yes and no.
Yes - no anus
No - digestion by-products are expelled by the all-in-one cloaca
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