11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby SteveDJ on Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:44 am

A minor confusion I first had in the next-to-last frame - it almost looks like it was the ARM saying "Huh?" :)

BinaryTears wrote:Oh. Well that's not creepy. Not at all. The arm has incredible killing power, ...


When you said this, I had this flash of memory from the kid's movie Alladin "... INCREDIBLE COSMIC POWER ... itty bitty living space ...". Here we have this arm thing that can kill demons in a single attack, yet is bound to live within poor little Dies. :D

Edit: P.S. I might have that quote wrong now...? Maybe it was PHENOMENAL, not INCREDIBLE...? Gee, I gotta watch that again sometime...
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby CommitsPuns on Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:01 am

looks like all the demons just got.....

SPOILERS:Hand-decapped


YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

SPOILERS:DAMMIT! I *HATE* late puns. This would have been SO PERFECT for the PREVIOUS update..... sigh....
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby Wolfie21384 on Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:06 am

SteveDJ wrote:A minor confusion I first had in the next-to-last frame - it almost looks like it was the ARM saying "Huh?" :)

BinaryTears wrote:Oh. Well that's not creepy. Not at all. The arm has incredible killing power, ...


When you said this, I had this flash of memory from the kid's movie Alladin "... INCREDIBLE COSMIC POWER ... itty bitty living space ...". Here we have this arm thing that can kill demons in a single attack, yet is bound to live within poor little Dies. :D

Edit: P.S. I might have that quote wrong now...? Maybe it was PHENOMENAL, not INCREDIBLE...? Gee, I gotta watch that again sometime...


It's Phenomenal... :D

What? I have a 3 year old who likes Disney movies. :D
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby Godbot on Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:08 am

CommitsPuns wrote:looks like all the demons just got.....

SPOILERS:Hand-decapped


YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

SPOILERS:DAMMIT! I *HATE* late puns. This would have been SO PERFECT for the PREVIOUS update..... sigh....

I appreciated this almost as much as how your post matched up with your username.
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby SomeUnregPunk on Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:09 am

knucklekraken wrote:IT'S FEMALE!!!!


it strikes me more of an angry child. I have seen children of single parents be very aggressive against another adult coming into a relationship with their parent.

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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby Johansson on Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:16 am

CommitsPuns wrote:looks like all the demons just got.....

SPOILERS:Hand-decapped


YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

SPOILERS:DAMMIT! I *HATE* late puns. This would have been SO PERFECT for the PREVIOUS update..... sigh....

That was the best thing I've read today.
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby YoungAndBeautiful on Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:25 am

Wolfie21384 wrote:
SteveDJ wrote:When you said this, I had this flash of memory from the kid's movie Alladin "... INCREDIBLE COSMIC POWER ... itty bitty living space ...". Here we have this arm thing that can kill demons in a single attack, yet is bound to live within poor little Dies. :D

Edit: P.S. I might have that quote wrong now...? Maybe it was PHENOMENAL, not INCREDIBLE...? Gee, I gotta watch that again sometime...


It's Phenomenal... :D

What? I have a 3 year old who likes Disney movies. :D

Yep, it's pheomenal. And I don't have any kids, I just Disney and most other animated movies myself. :smug:
And yes, i got to watch that one again sometime soon, too. :D

BTT: I thought there was a lot uncharacteristic in Dies latest behaviour, but I didn't "call" it. I'm kind of glad it turns out that he is not that cold hearted killing machine, though. Anyway, being next to a sleeping Dies might prove very dangerous in the future... :shifty:
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby m0rtimer on Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:53 am

My guess, (which has probably been mentioned at least once by someone else :P) is that the hand can only take control when it "feeds" enough. As in, when enough blood comes in contact with the hand. Which would make using the hand as a weapon potentially dangerous, because everything made of blood killed with it might bring the hand in control. And, well, he's not too friendly.
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby twocoo on Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:11 am

Hmm, I can't recall any exact incidents but I have heard Thunt talking about Klik and I think I would remember if Thunt had called Klik "she." Maybe arm has two daddies.
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby likeastarfish on Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:18 am

"Father" being Klik is what makes most sense to me as well. "Mine" could be interpreted as "of my kind" - ie. not a "thing" to be used by humanoids, but "one of us" meaning... whatever (outsider?) race Klik and the hand are.

(Alternatively, although a bit more of a stretch, perhaps it's "mine" as in "mine to fight" - perhaps the Hand hates Klik for creating it as a "forbidden" symbiote instead of as a full, free member of Klik-kind, and wants revenge in the form of a father/offspring duel? Think (Mary Shelley's, as opposed to various movieverses) Frankenstein...)

I really thought Saves would kill one demon. As a level 6 fighter, she must be kind of shocked that all 4 of the demons were killed by people who (as far as we know) don't even have class levels. That could be a source of tension as well...

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(A thought: what if the reason Grem has taken so long to rejoin the party is that he has found the real Orb of Bloodlight?)
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby askstoomuch on Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:28 am

or the fact that he is quite lost in a maze and needs to swim up a huge body of water wich is quite hard. :D
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby Johansson on Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:32 am

Or he just walks into the room by the next page, being all "So... did I miss anything important?"

Also, I just noticed Dies has blood on his ears in panels 5,6,10 and 11, but not in panel 8.
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby aggitan on Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:38 am

Neither Ichigo's hollow/zanpakuto want to lend their power to protect Ichigo's friends. They lend it to Ichigo to protect Ichigo. The arm, a child, acts childish in that it feels Dies only needs it; however it still wants to protect Dies and dies only - alone. It didn't recognize the orc as someone dies may have been dependent on as it died as soon as it was seen and hasn't directly lifted a finger to say "I want to help the group".
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby Johansson on Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:41 am

aggitan wrote:Neither Ichigo's hollow/zanpakuto want to lend their power to protect Ichigo's friends. They lend it to Ichigo to protect Ichigo. The arm, a child, acts childish in that it feels Dies only needs it; however it still wants to protect Dies and dies only - alone. It didn't recognize the orc as someone dies may have been dependent on as it died as soon as it was seen and hasn't directly lifted a finger to say "I want to help the group".

Excuse me, but what are you talking about?
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby CorruptUser on Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:58 am

Well, this would explain WHY Klik's species doesn't like to bond their 'children' directly to the host species.
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby CFsoftie on Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:30 am

I'm surprised nobody else has said this:

"Talk to the hand, because the goblin's concussed."

Sorry.

(But I think that's the explanation - Dies was concussed when he got thrown through the wall and the hand took over, but only until Dies woke up.)
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby ComplainsOfRules on Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:33 am

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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby Jochi on Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:49 am

ozymandias87 wrote:Possible future scene: Saves suggests that Dies gets his arm back with the orb, arm goes ape-shite. I guess a symbiotic organism would be very protective of the host, and if Dies is the father what does that make Klick?

You're right. KLIK is the father; Dies is the MOTHER. But the arm may not see it that way.

[edit] I gotta start reading the whole thread before posting.
Also, I too read it as a female child personality, jealous of at least one parent's involvement with Saves.
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby Jochi on Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:01 am

Triskavanski wrote: ... I wouldn't be suprised if Dies suddenly becomes a villain bent on killing everyone so he could finally die himself.

Are you making a connection between Dies and PsiMax? Because of the arms? If that's been discussed before, I missed it.
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby dungeonmasterchris on Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:07 am

All this talk saying the arm is female seems ridiculous to me. It's much more like an only child with a single parent. They spend all their time together because they are each other's family. Then, the single parent starts dating and this child feels lonely and jealous and possessive. "That is my daddy, why is my daddy with you and not me, why are you important, you're not my mom" sort of thing, you know. This is like a kid who freaks out and does the cliche line "Who are you to tell me what to do, you're not my real dad", except the kid has the ability to literally tear the step-parent apart when its upset.
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby knucklekraken on Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:11 am

I'm mostly convinced by the use of the word "bitch." That's a thing that females call each other to the face. Guys do not do that seriously. Of course, the arm doesn't have the same social repercussions looming over it as the guys I'm acquainted with, but it says that to me anyways.
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Re: 11/29/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby mnementh on Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:34 am

beancrock wrote:
Alaris wrote:
SeeAMoose wrote:One gripe with the thread name, this is the update for the 29th, not the 30th. :wink:

Other than that, great update. It's kind of interesting how the arm returned to normal so quickly, but I think we can lay the arm IME question to rest. :roll:

Also I think Thunt said that this was the last page of this story arc on the feed.


If it would have been posted on the 29th, I'd agree with you. Yes, his schedule says Tuesdays and Fridays, but the comic was posted on Wednesday, so that's the date I titled with.


Except, you know, time zones.

except... you know... THunt didn't update from CHINA, so that's a specious argument. ;)

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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby Jakesdad on Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:37 am

How many of you had Talking Heads "Once in a Lifetime " lyrics going through your heads after reading the final panel?

Fox is a bit naive here. The correct answer to a Dangerous Badass' question is either "I understand, " or "I agree." You don't ask for justification or clarification like she just did here._

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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby Sutremaine on Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:39 am

Johansson wrote:
aggitan wrote:Neither Ichigo's hollow/zanpakuto want to lend their power to protect Ichigo's friends. They lend it to Ichigo to protect Ichigo. The arm, a child, acts childish in that it feels Dies only needs it; however it still wants to protect Dies and dies only - alone. It didn't recognize the orc as someone dies may have been dependent on as it died as soon as it was seen and hasn't directly lifted a finger to say "I want to help the group".

Excuse me, but what are you talking about?

Bleach, for some reason. The point here is that the Superpowered Evil Side looks after its 'owner' and no-one else, and generally what's good for their continued survival is good for everyone else's. At least Dies snapped out of it before indulging in a little attempted team-killing.

I say 'for some reason' because of all the other dark sides in the world to pick on, the one that's a classical Shadow archetype (probably entirely intentional, given that the author knows the word 'immanent') is not a good match for Dies' externally-created tongue-eating-louse-thing.
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Re: 11/30/11 - SH-CHING! THWOOP! [COMIC UPDATE]

Postby Johansson on Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:56 am

Sutremaine wrote:
Johansson wrote:
aggitan wrote:Neither Ichigo's hollow/zanpakuto want to lend their power to protect Ichigo's friends. They lend it to Ichigo to protect Ichigo. The arm, a child, acts childish in that it feels Dies only needs it; however it still wants to protect Dies and dies only - alone. It didn't recognize the orc as someone dies may have been dependent on as it died as soon as it was seen and hasn't directly lifted a finger to say "I want to help the group".

Excuse me, but what are you talking about?

Bleach, for some reason. The point here is that the Superpowered Evil Side looks after its 'owner' and no-one else, and generally what's good for their continued survival is good for everyone else's. At least Dies snapped out of it before indulging in a little attempted team-killing.

I say 'for some reason' because of all the other dark sides in the world to pick on, the one that's a classical Shadow archetype (probably entirely intentional, given that the author knows the word 'immanent') is not a good match for Dies' externally-created tongue-eating-louse-thing.

:gonk: OH SWEET JESUS, WHY DID I CLICK ON THAT!? :gonk:

Thanks for the clarification, though. Not a big manga fan.
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